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Message posted by dinkum on 14/6/2014 at 8:43am
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We recently started towing our Freedom Microlite with a diesel Nissan NV200 campervan. A warden at a Caravan Club site mentioned that two vehicles are not permitted on one pitch if each vehicle has LPG aboard. We have bottles on the caravan and refillable bottle system on campervan.
We ( 2 adults) were accepted as "an outfit" using one pitch. The campervan is a 2013, professional conversion.
I cannot find any info on CC website (which I do not find at all easy to use.....)Is this the end of my Caravan Club usage after over 40 years of almost continuous membership? Anyone come across this ?

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Message posted by fixings on 14/6/2014 at 9:01am
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He probably meant that 2 separate camping units are not permitted on one pitch which seems fair enough. I would think that provided you use the campervan as just the towcar then ok, but if you set up on pitch with both caravan & campervan used as one camping unit which I guess is your intention so you have sleeping/cooking/sitting room facilities all together & 2 of you, who might sleep separately on in camper other in caravan, warden could then argue that you are 2 separate camping units that should be paying for 2 separate pitches.

If you think about it, its no different from 2 small campervans turning up together & expecting to share a pitch or 2 sets of campers with small tents in separate cars expecting to share a pitch. Most campsites would want them to pay for separate pitches.

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I am sure it is exactly that; you are trying to put two camping units on a single pitch.

The provision of LPG being a pretty clear way of defining what is or is not a camping unit?

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Go South, Young man!

And over the Channel to find Motorhome friendly sites and also less restrictive regulations.

This decent pitch at 11 a night should suit your outfit -


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It is probably to do with the 6mtr rule between units.

With a caravan or motorhome being one unit with an awning ( with no cooking facilities) next to it then possibly a tow car, again no cooking facilities, next to that,.

The next pitch ajacent pitch also set up the same way to give the required distance between habitation units but with very little distance between their caravan/motorhome and previous pitches car.

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I towed my caravan with a self build campervan and stayed on a caravan club site along with many others, and remember the warden mentioning this when I booked.

I never installed LPG in the campervan, used a meths double burner the type used on boats instead.

We have never been turned away from any site using the camper as a tow vehicle. campervan as a tow vehicle can give you the best of both worlds as you'll know, can you not just swap bottles about, bit of a pain but at least you can have a brew when your cruising around during the day.

Message posted by dinkum on 15/6/2014 at 7:53am
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Thanks for the comments. The warden appeared to be happy so long as we did not cook in both units. I declared the caravan the only unit which we would use to cook in. I cannot see what the difference is between , say towing with an LPG converted vehicle or perhaps carrying a spare Calor gas bottle (correctly secured of course !) in a car boot.
We honestly would not dream of trying to pay for just one pitch if we actually needed two. For example if we took 2 friends along. We only use one EHU of course, to the caravan. Does anyone know if the Caravan and Camping Club operate the same rule?
Being retired, we use the campervan as a day van all the time. It would defeat the object to continually swap or remove the refillable bottle.
My view is, that a full tank of petrol is far more risky than a properly fitted and maintained LPG container.

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Message posted by pepe63 on 15/6/2014 at 8:44am
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Quote: Originally posted by dinkum on 15/6/2014


a) I cannot see what the difference is between , say towing with an LPG converted vehicle or perhaps carrying a spare Calor gas bottle (correctly secured of course !) in a car boot.

b) We honestly would not dream of trying to pay for just one pitch if we actually needed two.

c)My view is, that a full tank of petrol is far more risky than a properly fitted and maintained LPG container.


a) As others have said it's probably as much about using two camping vehicles/units on the one pitch as much as anything(they have to draw a line somewhere).

b)But SOME would...

c) You may well be correct but I doubt this has much to do with "safety"(see "a" and "b " )


Message posted by gazmister123 on 15/6/2014 at 11:51pm
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Your camper looks like a little people carrier anyway, i wouldnt worry, my advice would be to email the club with your scenario and print out the response (as long as its the right response) and keep a printed copy in your van if you ever get questioned by the green short brigade wardens .

I love your setup, and the mixture of best of both worlds for a small unit it's perfect and being able to tow your little freedom is a brilliant option to be able to use as a base for longer stays but still have the camper for days out and cheeky weekends away.


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Message posted by Bob61 on 16/6/2014 at 1:51am
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I used to be a member of the C&CC and I was never harassed by the wardens (quite the reverse...they seemed to go out of their way to be helpful). There were other problems though which resulted in me parting company with them. However, I can't see why anyone would want to be a member if their holiday was spoiled by criticism over their chosen mode of transport or arguments over whether or not their tow vehicle constituted a second unit. It might be different if they were packed with 2 or 3 families. Life's too short. Go elsewhere...there is no shortage of good quality campsites at reasonable rates.

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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 16/6/2014
1)Life's too short. 2)Go elsewhere...3) there is no shortage of good quality campsites at reasonable rates.

Although I'd fully agree with points 1 & 3,before the OP writes off the CC completely, I'd be checking with them, just to make sure this wasn't just the "interpretation" of a, possibly, "overzealous"  warden...

We've only  had one..*cough* .."issue" with  site warden(s),they insisted that we needed to "de-camp" our  MH and reverse it onto the pitch, "because they were Club rules"  (but by doing so, would've meant our doors faced each our and our canopy would've be adjacent to the neighbouring vans' awning..?!)

Of cause, it wasn't "Club rules" it was just their opinion/view but they were insistent, so we upped sticks and moved on...


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