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Message posted by Dave11 on 16/6/2014 at 5:38pm
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My wife and I are going to the Motorhome and Caravan show at the NEC in October with a view to buy a new caravan or make the swap to a motorhome.

We currently have a twin axle caravan so have got used to plenty of room when our grown up daughters are not with us, however we have been considering changing to a motohome for some time now and cannot decide to keep with a caravan for another 3 to 4 years then change to a motorhome?

Can anyone offer any suggestions as to which motorhomes I could start doing research on?
We would be looking at 6 berth if possible with enough space if one of our daughters with their partner came on holiday with us. We have got used to a fixed bed in the van with lounge area still left and would still like this option.

I would also like to get a small car to tow on an A frame for longer distance touring.

If I change in our 4WD and caravan I would be looking at a maximum purchase price of around 60-70k although allowing for a small car to be purchased I would rathger keep to a motohome purchase price around 50 - 60k?
I dont even know where to start as I would want a motorhome with enough power and train weight to pull a small car when required.

Any advice or recommendations would be of great help as we know we want to make the transition to a motorhome but cant decide when best to do so, if I can shortlist some to look at before the October show, I will be able to save a lot of leg ache going to stands that are not of interest.

Thanks

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Message posted by vwalan on 16/6/2014 at 5:45pm
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fifth wheeler is the way . one road tax one mot etc .
use a mitsubishi canter /fuso as the tow vehicle or an isuzu.get a double cab they have seven seats .
if your lucky and get the right outfit it could be mot exempt as well. mind it would have to be an artic trailer then and have a garage . well big enough for bikes or a small m,bike .

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A "six wheel" motorhome should give you enough room

A-frames? Now illegal in a lot of European countries despite what you may be told by various a-frame manufacturers

Small car? Fiat Panda? the new Smart ForFour, if and when it ever arrives
Just be careful of towing weights and/or axle loadings but you'll be well aware of this from your caravanning experiences

2nd hand is also worth looking at. Personally, I'd be looking at the German vehicles

Engine size? I prefer large engines ie 3 litre or there abouts

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Quote: Originally posted by Dave11 on 16/6/2014

My wife and I are going to the Motorhome and Caravan show at the NEC in October with a view to buy a new caravan or make the swap to a motorhome.

We currently have a twin axle caravan so have got used to plenty of room when our grown up daughters are not with us, however we have been considering changing to a motohome for some time now and cannot decide to keep with a caravan for another 3 to 4 years then change to a motorhome?

Can anyone offer any suggestions as to which motorhomes I could start doing research on?
We would be looking at 6 berth if possible with enough space if one of our daughters with their partner came on holiday with us. We have got used to a fixed bed in the van with lounge area still left and would still like this option.

I would also like to get a small car to tow on an A frame for longer distance touring.

If I change in our 4WD and caravan I would be looking at a maximum purchase price of around 60-70k although allowing for a small car to be purchased I would rathger keep to a motohome purchase price around 50 - 60k?
I dont even know where to start as I would want a motorhome with enough power and train weight to pull a small car when required.

Any advice or recommendations would be of great help as we know we want to make the transition to a motorhome but cant decide when best to do so, if I can shortlist some to look at before the October show, I will be able to save a lot of leg ache going to stands that are not of interest.

Thanks




If you need to tow a car I would make sure your new Motorhome has a good towing capacity as Happy Bonzo says A-Frame's are not tolerated in some European country's so a trailer would be your only option which adds to your overall trainweight

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I thought I read somewhere that this is a grey area in Europe and although not technically legal to use an A frame in Europe, because it is allowed in UK it can be questioned.
I thought I heard that because this was the case the Caravan Club have letters in different languages indicating some eu directive that argues the case if you got pulled over in the EU?? Can anyone clarify if this is correct or not?

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Quote: Originally posted by Dave11 on 17/6/2014
I thought I read somewhere that this is a grey area in Europe and although not technically legal to use an A frame in Europe, because it is allowed in UK it can be questioned.
I thought I heard that because this was the case the Caravan Club have letters in different languages indicating some eu directive that argues the case if you got pulled over in the EU?? Can anyone clarify if this is correct or not?





"Not technically legal " quoting your words
The Use of A-frames was an idea imported from America and its a Grey Area within the law which is exploited .
There is to be a ruling sometime in the near future which will clarify the situation .
In the hear and now there are some country's in Europe where the use of A-frames is not tolerated .
Spain being one of them , try arguing with Guarda Civil Traffico officers and see where you get .
There not interested in any Multi Language Paper issued by the frame manufacturer's proclaiming the legality's of A-frames , as far as there concerned NOT in there country .
We over winter in Spain every year and have spoke to Motorhomers who have been fined heavily and made to disconnect .
Many are now using trailers both in the Uk and abroad .

We also are changing from a caravan to a MH later this year but I'm determined to make do with electric bikes and shanks pony and will hire a car when were away for longer periods if needs must

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Hi Neil and Lena , thanks for the info . When technically not legal in Europe i was basing that on the fact that I read an article which said that they had not known of any Motorhomes that had actually been fined by using an A frame in Europe. However your post lets us all be warned this is not the case, particularly in Spain!

I think I agree with you, I already have said to the wife that when we make the transition from caravan to Motorhome in cases of longer distance holidays , we would just hire a small car for part of the holiday and incorporate this as part of the holiday cost. I went on to a few sites like Avis and Hertz and was surprised at the relatively low cost to hire one for a few days is in Europe. Take into account the saving on fuel and tolls by towing a car and this helps offset the hire.

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Hi Dave,

With your budget and requirements i would look at A Class motorhomes (built as one from the chassis up rather than attached to an open cab and chassis ) such as Hymer, Burstner and Rapido etc. - The cab area is also an integral part of the lounge so there is always a good sense of space in which to lounge rather than sit bolt upright as can be the case if restricted to the dinette of a coach built motorhome.

This would allow for a fixed bed at the rear and a drop down double over the cab seats. - the dinette may also convert if grand-kids are forthcoming.

Most A class's will also have a double floor making them suitable for all year touring in any weather.

When we were at the NEC last year we came across the Iteneo range of A class motorhomes which is a sub-brand of the French manufacturer Rapido - They offered outstanding value for A Class motorhomes.

You can view their layouts HERE

Hope this helps.

Guy.

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Message posted by Dave11 on 18/6/2014 at 10:15am
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Thanks Guy, will have a look at the diet this evening, could be a good one to look at in October at the NEC.

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