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Message posted by Mike3003 on 02/10/2017 at 10:47pm
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Some really positive stuff here, thanks for all your comments.

What really got me is the fact that I am now classed as obese. OBESE!

I am quite ashamed of myself because I have always been really fit, but I guess retiring from a very physically active outdoors job two and a half years ago, now means I have to make the effort, and that is what I am going to do.

On the positive side, and these are not excuses, I have just returned from a near month long holiday, eating and drinking far too much. I am also quite a large, broad shouldered, built bloke, still quite muscular after decades working out for strength. So I am packing a bit of muscle, hence the realistic target of 14 1/2 stone and not the 12 stone as suggested on the NHS site, so I am aiming to drop about 22lbs.

Saxon 1 has brought it home explaining about his diabetes, being over weight is asking for trouble when it comes to type 2.

I have just binge watched "How to stay young" as suggested by Fiona. All I can say is WOW, how inspirational. Thanks.

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Just remember that muscle weighs more than fat so if you exercise you could put on weight. If you exercise your stomach muscles they get bigger and push out the fat making your stomach bigger...

...there's only one thing for it...liposuction!

Also bear in mind that most people weigh themselves fully clothed. Remove your clothes and you can immediately lose 5 pounds or more.

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Message posted by Mike3003 on 03/10/2017 at 8:21am
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Cmon Bob, I thought you did most things in the nude!! 😀😀😀👍

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Mike3003, drop the carbs and low carb, you will lose the weight: bread, rice, pasta, potatoes. Forget low fat foods, go high fat, all meats full cooked breakfast except the carbs. Easy to do and sustainable, no calorie counting,
Plus you will feel full

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I have lost weight by low carbing, but at my local pharmacy there is information aimed at diabetics (which I am not btw) which advocates "plenty of starchy carbs". Is this why there are so many obese diabetics with major health problems?

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Mrs Bonce, plenty of starchy carbs are so bad for people with diabetics with T2 diabetes and does cause complications because of lack of control.   I'm T2 low carb it's great way to lose weight whether non or T2 or pre diabetics, (high normal or borderline)

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Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 03/10/2017
Cmon Bob, I thought you did most things in the nude!! 😀😀😀👍



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Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 03/10/2017
Mike3003, drop the carbs and low carb, you will lose the weight: bread, rice, pasta, potatoes. Forget low fat foods, go high fat, all meats full cooked breakfast except the carbs. Easy to do and sustainable, no calorie counting,
Plus you will feel full



I suppose I eat a fair amount of bread but quite happy to replace it with something...what do you suggest? I rarely eat rice and never eat pasta these days but I do like my spuds. I generally have a pretty decent breakfast...eggs, bacon, beans etc. but often with toast.

The thing is...how long does one have to resist eating what one enjoys before a difference is noticed that makes it worth while...not only worth while but worth carrying on?

Everything I have ever read about losing weight takes years (or at least many months) to show any difference and that is why most people simply give up I suspect.



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Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 03/10/2017
Mrs Bonce, plenty of starchy carbs are so bad for people with diabetics with T2 diabetes and does cause complications because of lack of control.   I'm T2 low carb it's great way to lose weight whether non or T2 or pre diabetics, (high normal or borderline)



I think it might be different for everybody. My wife is T2 diabetic and was diagnosed as 'low carb'. She occasionally feels the need to eat carbohydrates (bread/potatoes) to settle her stomach. She has not been told not to eat carbohydrates but there has to be a balance of all different foods in order to remain healthy. I haven't a clue how she feels but she seems to know when she is lacking in something...and so do I because she gets ratty

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Advice here:
So Where Do I Start?
Avoid These Types of Carbohydrates:

Beverages: Juice (even 100% fruit juice), soda, sweetened iced tea, lemonade, Gatorade, Vitamin water, sweetened coffee drinks, flavored milk
Starches: White breads: rolls, bagels, hero bread, Italian bread, multi-grain bread (this is not necessarily a whole grain), white pasta, white rice, muffins, croissants, scones, sweetened cereals
Snack foods: white crackers, chips, pretzels, sweetened dried fruit, yogurt covered snacks, cookies, cake, ice cream, candy bars, cereal bars
Condiments and added sugars: Syrup, sugar, brown sugar, sugar in the raw, honey, agave, molasses, corn syrup, fructose, high fructose corn syrup, sucrose, dextrose, maltose, fruit juice concentrates
Choose These Carbohydrates Instead:

Beverages with zero carbohydrates: water (add lemon or lime for added flavor), seltzer, unsweetened iced tea, herbal tea, coffee, diet drinks
Beverages low in carbohydrates: almond milk (plain), soy milk (plain)
Dairy: Low-fat and non-fat milk, Low-fat or non-fat Greek yogurt, low-fat kefir, low-fat cottage cheese
Starches: Legumes (beans), any type, preferably dry, but if canned be sure to rinse, sweet potatoes, squash, pumpkin, peas, corn, grains: 100% whole grains are best choices (oatmeal, quinoa, barley, etc), non-starchy vegetables (aim to make 1/2 your plate non-starchy vegetables)
Snacks and other foods: air-popped popcorn, whole grain crackers, whole grain cereals
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Nothing wrong with complex carbs wholewheat bread, wholewheat pasta, brown rice all good foods. The issue with carbs is that people eat the refined cr at p that is white, pastey, tastes rubbish and is bad for you

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I was 17.5 stone when I was truck driving & 12.5 stone which is what I should be for my height now I am retired. How did I do that because I have always been active doing plenty of walking? I probably do 2 miles a day at least walking to shops & family locally instead of jumping in the car but I always have. I packed up fags in my 30s.

So how did I lose 5 stone over a period of probably 3yrs & keep it off? No good news I'm afraid Mike. I have porridge for breakfast. Dinner will be fish & cooked veg or veggie type pasta dish & probably yogurt & fruit for tea. Alcohol intake cut down to perhaps 1 or 2 small bottles of beer a day or less. Thats it. No cakes, no sweets, nothing like that.

Tbf what I eat is ok but boring but I do feel a lot better & my previously dodgy knee does not trouble me now. What I have done is remove food as a joy from my life completely & find my pleasures in other ways.

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Go for it Mike, if it makes you feel better.

My weight goes up and down a lot. Mainly because I go through periods of ill health. Iím really unhappy with my weight just now and, at only 4í11Ē, itís so hard to hide any weight gain!! But Iíll have to work on that when I feel better (lack of exercise is my biggest problem just now). I think the worst thing you can do is restrict yourself too much, so just cut down on portions particularly and cut back on the treats! Slow and steady weight loss is the best way to keep it off. Walking at a moderate to fast pace too, everyday, should help too. X

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I was 10 and a half stone when I got married 40 odd years ago.
I always had a physical job and also kept fit doing boxing training, hillwalking, cycling and Karate.

I stayed that weight until I retired at 60.
Over the next year or two I went up to 11 stone and have stayed at that weight.

I don't eat fried foods, love vegetables. Eat little bread, potatoes. Love pasta, red wine and beer!

Guess I am just lucky.. good luck Mike



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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 03/10/2017
Advice here:
So Where Do I Start?
Avoid These Types of Carbohydrates:

Beverages: Juice (even 100% fruit juice), soda, sweetened iced tea, lemonade, Gatorade, Vitamin water, sweetened coffee drinks, flavored milk
Starches: White breads: rolls, bagels, hero bread, Italian bread, multi-grain bread (this is not necessarily a whole grain), white pasta, white rice, muffins, croissants, scones, sweetened cereals
Snack foods: white crackers, chips, pretzels, sweetened dried fruit, yogurt covered snacks, cookies, cake, ice cream, candy bars, cereal bars
Condiments and added sugars: Syrup, sugar, brown sugar, sugar in the raw, honey, agave, molasses, corn syrup, fructose, high fructose corn syrup, sucrose, dextrose, maltose, fruit juice concentrates
Choose These Carbohydrates Instead:

Beverages with zero carbohydrates: water (add lemon or lime for added flavor), seltzer, unsweetened iced tea, herbal tea, coffee, diet drinks
Beverages low in carbohydrates: almond milk (plain), soy milk (plain)
Dairy: Low-fat and non-fat milk, Low-fat or non-fat Greek yogurt, low-fat kefir, low-fat cottage cheese
Starches: Legumes (beans), any type, preferably dry, but if canned be sure to rinse, sweet potatoes, squash, pumpkin, peas, corn, grains: 100% whole grains are best choices (oatmeal, quinoa, barley, etc), non-starchy vegetables (aim to make 1/2 your plate non-starchy vegetables)
Snacks and other foods: air-popped popcorn, whole grain crackers, whole grain cereals
saxo1




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No Bob
Cant give up that Breakfast mate
I doing the October no beer month as well.
Might not make that one



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