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Message posted by franbee on 03/10/2017 at 9:36pm
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One thing that you can do easily, is choose 1 or 2 snacks that you're not fussed about, crisps, sweets, biscuits, cakes, and NEVER eat them, thereby saving yourself all those empty calories. If you do like them all, then choose 1 not to eat anyway.

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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 03/10/2017
Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 03/10/2017
Mike3003, drop the carbs and low carb, you will lose the weight: bread, rice, pasta, potatoes. Forget low fat foods, go high fat, all meats full cooked breakfast except the carbs. Easy to do and sustainable, no calorie counting,
Plus you will feel full



I suppose I eat a fair amount of bread but quite happy to replace it with something...what do you suggest? I rarely eat rice and never eat pasta these days but I do like my spuds. I generally have a pretty decent breakfast...eggs, bacon, beans etc. but often with toast.

The thing is...how long does one have to resist eating what one enjoys before a difference is noticed that makes it worth while...not only worth while but worth carrying on?

Everything I have ever read about losing weight takes years (or at least many months) to show any difference and that is why most people simply give up I suspect.





Hi Bob, sounds if you are still eating too many carbs if you're not losing weight. If eating correctly should lose weight, and don't need to wait weeks to notice the difference.

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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 03/10/2017
Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 03/10/2017
Mrs Bonce, plenty of starchy carbs are so bad for people with diabetics with T2 diabetes and does cause complications because of lack of control.   I'm T2 low carb it's great way to lose weight whether non or T2 or pre diabetics, (high normal or borderline)



I think it might be different for everybody. My wife is T2 diabetic and was diagnosed as 'low carb'. She occasionally feels the need to eat carbohydrates (bread/potatoes) to settle her stomach. She has not been told not to eat carbohydrates but there has to be a balance of all different foods in order to remain healthy. I haven't a clue how she feels but she seems to know when she is lacking in something...and so do I because she gets ratty



I never feel the need to eat carbs. I'm diet controlled low carb and test. This is all against the official advice. Told not to test.   Out of interest does your wife test her sugar levels? My levels are usually in range, for a non diabetic. I've increased my insulin sensitivity, now I occasionally treat myself and stay in range, which is under recommendations of Nice guidelines, thus avoiding future complications and no need for meds.

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 03/10/2017
Advice here:
So Where Do I Start?
Avoid These Types of Carbohydrates:

Beverages: Juice (even 100% fruit juice), soda, sweetened iced tea, lemonade, Gatorade, Vitamin water, sweetened coffee drinks, flavored milk
Starches: White breads: rolls, bagels, hero bread, Italian bread, multi-grain bread (this is not necessarily a whole grain), white pasta, white rice, muffins, croissants, scones, sweetened cereals
Snack foods: white crackers, chips, pretzels, sweetened dried fruit, yogurt covered snacks, cookies, cake, ice cream, candy bars, cereal bars
Condiments and added sugars: Syrup, sugar, brown sugar, sugar in the raw, honey, agave, molasses, corn syrup, fructose, high fructose corn syrup, sucrose, dextrose, maltose, fruit juice concentrates
Choose These Carbohydrates Instead:

Beverages with zero carbohydrates: water (add lemon or lime for added flavor), seltzer, unsweetened iced tea, herbal tea, coffee, diet drinks
Beverages low in carbohydrates: almond milk (plain), soy milk (plain)
Dairy: Low-fat and non-fat milk, Low-fat or non-fat Greek yogurt, low-fat kefir, low-fat cottage cheese
Starches: Legumes (beans), any type, preferably dry, but if canned be sure to rinse, sweet potatoes, squash, pumpkin, peas, corn, grains: 100% whole grains are best choices (oatmeal, quinoa, barley, etc), non-starchy vegetables (aim to make 1/2 your plate non-starchy vegetables)
Snacks and other foods: air-popped popcorn, whole grain crackers, whole grain cereals
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That's a great list, however I would eat full fat yogurts because of fewer carbs in them. They take fat out and replace with sugar, which is a no, no.

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 03/10/2017
Advice here:
So Where Do I Start?
Avoid These Types of Carbohydrates:

Beverages: Juice (even 100% fruit juice), soda, sweetened iced tea, lemonade, Gatorade, Vitamin water, sweetened coffee drinks, flavored milk
Starches: White breads: rolls, bagels, hero bread, Italian bread, multi-grain bread (this is not necessarily a whole grain), white pasta, white rice, muffins, croissants, scones, sweetened cereals
Snack foods: white crackers, chips, pretzels, sweetened dried fruit, yogurt covered snacks, cookies, cake, ice cream, candy bars, cereal bars
Condiments and added sugars: Syrup, sugar, brown sugar, sugar in the raw, honey, agave, molasses, corn syrup, fructose, high fructose corn syrup, sucrose, dextrose, maltose, fruit juice concentrates
Choose These Carbohydrates Instead:

Beverages with zero carbohydrates: water (add lemon or lime for added flavor), seltzer, unsweetened iced tea, herbal tea, coffee, diet drinks
Beverages low in carbohydrates: almond milk (plain), soy milk (plain)
Dairy: Low-fat and non-fat milk, Low-fat or non-fat Greek yogurt, low-fat kefir, low-fat cottage cheese
Starches: Legumes (beans), any type, preferably dry, but if canned be sure to rinse, sweet potatoes, squash, pumpkin, peas, corn, grains: 100% whole grains are best choices (oatmeal, quinoa, barley, etc), non-starchy vegetables (aim to make 1/2 your plate non-starchy vegetables)
Snacks and other foods: air-popped popcorn, whole grain crackers, whole grain cereals
saxo1



For a low carbing, I would leave out all whole grainscand starchy veg and car by fruit. Increase meat, for energy this comes from fats from meat and cheese yoguart, this is why people lose weight, depriving the system carbs thus uses fat as energy instead.


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Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 04/10/2017
I never feel the need to eat carbs. I'm diet controlled low carb and test. This is all against the official advice. Told not to test.   Out of interest does your wife test her sugar levels? My levels are usually in range, for a non diabetic. I've increased my insulin sensitivity, now I occasionally treat myself and stay in range, which is under recommendations of Nice guidelines, thus avoiding future complications and no need for meds.



My wife had to go on medication as soon as she was diagnosed a few years back now. She has had lots of problems with her sugar levels going up and down like a yo-yo and has had to have various tablets which they keep adjusting accordingly. She has a machine for taking her blood samples regularly. She eats regularly which apparently she has been told to do and changed her diet according to what she was advised. She is often physically sick though and occasionally her blood levels drop right down and she becomes very shaky. We have to keep small bottles of coca-cola available for her to swig as they are practically neat sugar and seem to work quickly.

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Quote: Originally posted by heath63 on 04/10/2017

Hi Bob, sounds if you are still eating too many carbs if you're not losing weight. If eating correctly should lose weight, and don't need to wait weeks to notice the difference.



Well, I had meat and veg for lunch (two hotdogs with onions) and had just two chocolate digestives for afters instead of four. I must admit having two bridge rolls with the hotdogs which was wrong I know

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That's the trouble Bob.

I love healthy food, but eat too much of it. And I also like unhealthy food..........

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Most fruit is high in carbs too, berries are best, you can get frozen ones all year. Full fat Greek yogurt, not low fat.

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Gin = juniper berries = fruit
Chocolate = comes from a plant = salad.....

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at 63 and 38 years of "wedded bliss" later , a realisation that about 3 years ago   2 - 3 bars of choccy in the sarnie box a day was not doing me any good, so stopped buying that and glad to say that Teusday a step upon the scales seen me hit 11stone 4 pounds, the very weight i was the day we got married , happy with that ,,

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Quote: Originally posted by weegmack on 04/10/2017
Gin = juniper berries = fruit
Chocolate = comes from a plant = salad.....





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Quote: Originally posted by lissabuff on 04/10/2017
at 63 and 38 years of "wedded bliss" later , a realisation that about 3 years ago   2 - 3 bars of choccy in the sarnie box a day was not doing me any good, so stopped buying that and glad to say that Teusday a step upon the scales seen me hit 11stone 4 pounds, the very weight i was the day we got married , happy with that ,,



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Yes, but she's only 5'2"

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Low carb foods:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/44-healthy-low-carb-foods#section42

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I piled the weight on after stopping smoking. I started eating more as the food tasted better, so the more I had the more I liked it.
2 weeks ago we returned from holiday, checked my weight and was 18st 6lbs.
This morning I weighed myself (on the same scales) and was 17st 10lbs. I've done this by cutting out the carbs, cutting out the booze and doing lots of exercise. I go to the gym almost every day and spend between 20 and 40 minutes on the rowing machine. (I am currently in the top 10 rowers in my age group in the UK (over 70's) and am No.1 in some of the events)
Don't forget, booze is carbs. A glass of red wine has more carbs in it than a pint of beer. It's hard to believe, but true.
Don't forget that the older you get, the slower your metabolic rate gets, so you don't burn off the fat as easily as the younger end. A tip for increasing the metabolic rate is to take a tablespoon of Cyder vinegar in warm water, first thing in the morning and to take raspberry ketone extract tablets which could help with weight loss.
If you have fruit, do some exercise within 30 minutes, or the sugars contained in the fruit will turn to fat.
Longer periods of steady exercise keeping your pulse rate down to about 60% of your max rate is better for burning fat.
If you don't ditch carbs altogether, porridge is a slow release carb so will help you feel less hungry for longer.
One more tip I picked up is to have 4 or 5 small meals per day instead of having a big evening meal, but if you're not hungry - DON'T EAT.


Good luck with the weight loss.

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