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Subject Topic: Nissan XTrail 2.2 CDI (2006 Reg)
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Message posted by LYNS24 on 30/3/2009 at 12:45pm
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Just wondering if any one has one?  If so what are they like to tow?  We have a 2009 Bailey Ranger 460/4 looking to get an Xtrail pretty soon we really like them.  Has any one had any problems with them?

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HI Lyn, well as a Nissan fan I may be able to shed a bit of light for you.  The main issue seen on the diesels is turbo and intercooler failure at around the 50,000 mile mark.  It is associated with the turbo not being allowed to cool down after working the engine hard. 

So if you are buying check to see if it has been done and if you hear a whistling sound when test driving walk away.  Ideally get one with a decent warranty on it and make sure it doesn't exclude the turbo.

I have the 2 litre petrol version, I deliberately steered clear of the diesel.  Our neighbour on the site where our van is had the diesel.  I asked if he had had any probs and he said no it had been great.  I asked the mileage and it was about 48k.  I said your turbo will go soon then, they are notorious for it lol.  Blow me down if he didn't text me a few weeks later to say the turbo had gone!  Apparently I jinxed it!

There are loads of threads on here so have a read, also on Honest John and Parkers for owners reviews.  Great cars, I love mine to bits and wish I had bought one earlier so if you can avoid the turbo issue you'll be fine.

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I would highly recommend them as a tow car. We have a 2.2 dci diesel. Very economical on diesel and as an every day car. WE have had no probs with ours had it just over ayear.

Message posted by eddie marris on 30/3/2009 at 6:07pm
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I have a 53 plate 2.2 diesel and have had it for 2.5 years. 58000 miles and never missed a beat.Do remember to let it idle for a minute after running it hard or towing to let the turbo wind down as you should with all turbo's not just diesels.

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We have just returned from a 5000 mile trip over 3 months around France , Spain , portugal with our X-trail 2.2 dci sport towing a 1420kg bailey pageant burgundy  and the car performed exceptionally well even on steep inclines , this are 4 th trip abroad in 3 years and 46,000 miles on the clock with no problems .

if you are buying under 3 years old will still be under warranty so should you be unlucky enough to have any problems Nissan will repair with out any quibble , you can also extend the warranty as we did to 5 years & 60,000 miles at a cost of 429 money well spent or if your buying from a main dealer make them include the extended warranty with your deal


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I am on my second x trail. I have towed caravans and Folding campers all around europe and I can't praise these cars high enough! Particuarly a good buy second hand if you get the extra warranty. The mpg is amazing for the size of car. Love mine to bits! Really easy and light to drive. The built in sat nav is awsome for europe. Buy one!

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Quote: Originally posted by snowy747 on 30/3/2009

HI Lyn, well as a Nissan fan I may be able to shed a bit of light for you.  The main issue seen on the diesels is turbo and intercooler failure at around the 50,000 mile mark.  It is associated with the turbo not being allowed to cool down after working the engine hard. 


Almost correct, but not quite. The turbo problem can happen at any mileage - some have gone with only a few thousands on the clock, others are fine after having done 100k. And while the turbo problem is made worse by them not being allowed to "spool down"  - you have to idle the car for a minute or so after hard driving, such as pulling off a motorway into a service area, otherwise there is no oil fed to the turbo bearings - there are a couple of other factors, too.

Originally, the diesel engines' electronic management systems set the boost too high, creating problems with blown seals and oil getting into the intercoolers. This has since been remedied with a recall. Ensure that the recall has been carried out before buying any used X-Trail made before 2008.

Regular oil changes (every six months or 6000 miles) are needed. Ignore the manufacturer's recommendation of annual/12000 mile changes.

However, to answer the original question - they are terrific tow cars. Bags of power, comfortable, great off road, good to drive solo, practical, luxurious and (if you look after them and don't drive them too aggressively) reliable, too.



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Quote: Originally posted by Viggo on 03/4/2009

Almost correct, but not quite. The turbo problem can happen at any mileage - some have gone with only a few thousands on the clock, others are fine after having done 100k. 

 

Yep mine went at about 10k.



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I had an 05 2.2dCi. The intercooler was replaced at about 20k miles and again along with the turbo at 40k something. I also had problems with the electrics and a lot of rattles and squeaks. It was, however, an excellent drive and more comfortable than the new model.
I would also add that I have driven turbo diesels for many years and I am well aware of the need to idle after a fast run. I would consider an old model XT but only with a comprehensive warranty. Another issue is the fuel pump - not as common as the turbo issue, but verrrrrry expensive to put right.     

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Spampman,

                 Just got a 2004 Hyundai Tucson deisel, how long should I let it idle to cool down turbo. Do you need to do it everytime you drive it.


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After a high speed run, I let it idle for a minute ish. Trundling round town at 30mph - I don't bother.
Next time you stop at a motorway services see how many people pull up, switch off and jump out. Just asking for trouble

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It's not often that you need to do it, as most driving ends with a slow speed section from the fast road to your destination, which has the same effect as idling as far as the turbo is concerned. It's only when stopping immediately after a fast (or hilly) drive that you need worry, so that usually means when you come off the motorway or stop in a lay-by.



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You can buy a device that keeps the engine going for a while after you turn the ignition off, my colleague had it on his Mitsi Evo, he'd park up and walk away and the car would carry on for a few more seconds! 

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Quote: Originally posted by LYNS24 on 30/3/2009
Just wondering if any one has one?  If so what are they like to tow?  We have a 2009 Bailey Ranger 460/4 looking to get an Xtrail pretty soon we really like them.  Has any one had any problems with them?

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 I have a 2006 x trail 2.2 dci  had it from new pulling elddis 524 odyssey had no trouble at all . very good tow car.


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I'm glad I spotted this topic...We are seriously thinking about changing our car for one of these and all the reviews have been pretty favorable, but to see other 'vanners opinions on the vehicle certainly add to the weight of us getting an Xtrail.

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