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Message posted by Francais on 05/6/2010 at 5:14pm
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Went to the Karsten Tent display today, at Fishpools Caravan park in Cheshire, which also is a C&CC site, great to see these tents close up, and to get an understanding of the various options, of which there are many, for the fully loaded model I was looking at your talking about the thick end of £3,500!, but you can't compare Karsten tents to anything else, they are just in a league of there own, if you realy want to see what arguably are the best tents available, it's worth a visit, the Fishpool display is on tommorow for the last day.

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Hi, I was planning on going to the Karsten tent show myself today, but had a last minute change of plan – so will hopefully get to see the tents at Newbury next month.

 

I’ve been pawing over their brochure and DVD this week: they seem very quick to pitch, and I like the flexibility of being able to take away the main tent and an awning for a short stay, and then add the sleeping pods etc for a longer stay.

 

Do you think the high price is justified having seen them in the flesh – compared to your Cabanon for example?

 

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Hi Doug.

            Fact is my Cabanon should have been around £1500 c/w Sun-Canopy, but I got lucky with a £750 bargain, due to Cabanon's troubles at the time, so forking out £3500 for the Karsten would take some serious consideration, thing is the quality of finish of the Cabanon is as good if not better than the Karsten, but the Karsten wins hands down on the various options available, along with the inflatable situation, not having loads heavey steel poles is a big plus for the Karsten, and makes overnight pitch's more dooable, what I did notice about the Karsten's is that they do not feature a proper bedroom inner tent, and that is somthing I like about my Cabanon, and even my backpacking tents for that matter, going back to your original question, do I think the price is justified, well frankly no, but what you have to remember is that Karsten have a commercial sector, supplying utility inflatable tents to local authorities etc, were I imagine they will be charging double if not more than thier consumer offerings, also Karten tents are almost bespoke, being made to order, they do offer a discount for orders placed end of season, to be collected the following year, you are not likley to find a Karsten on clearance in a tent shop!, so I guess if you want a new Karsten, then you have to pay those prices, plenty of Dutch folk seem to do, so I would say that is your answer, you pays your money and takes your choice, the Karsten's are dam fine tents, and I was more than impressed with what I got to see, and would be happy to own one, and in the great scheme of things, £3500 is a lot less than what you would pay for a TT, Caravan or MotorHome, ok that's like comparing apples with pears, but at the end of the day, a Karsten tent is still a mobile holiday home on a budget in comparison. 



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Message posted by ybyatt on 05/6/2010 at 9:50pm
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glad you made it francias, sorry we didn't get to meet you what time were you there?

james and suzie were lovely.

i do agree karstens are a hefty outlay but the other thing is that you can, as long as you have to zippers put into the main tent put in initialy when ordered, you can add the extra awnings, sleeping pods etc and alittle each year.

also something to think about is, there is no up keep, no storage costs or journeys made twice as long as with a tt / van / m'home

hi doug

you do need to go to see them up close, it is a investment but we do camp more because the karsten makes it so easy. and we only have the one set up and not a weekender tent, weeks holiday tent one for when hubby's at work. you just take the main pod and other bits you want

but i do love my karsten, so am very bias. anyway i'll stop now lol could rave for hours.

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Thanks both for following up on my question - much appreciated! Really looking forward to seeing them at Newbury next month.


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Hi Vonnie.

               I got there for 12:30Hrs and spent around an hour having a mooch, I liked the size of the 350 although there was not a 380 on display, so my current wish list is as below.

350 Tent                  £1326

Front wall                  £247

Comfort Awning          £321

Extention Awning        £300

Sleeping ext mod         £135

Sleeping Extention       £648

Rain Awning                £129

Windows in awning       £102

Full ZiP GroundSheet    £211

Door screen/mesh         £42

Compressor/Pump         £143

Total                             £3604!

I just hope those prices include VAT, although I am sure there is room for some negotiation, and I am not sure if I have got all the extras correct.

I would like to have seen the 380 on display, although not all the options I have thought of, for the 350 are available for the 380, so if I do go for a Karsten it will have to be the 350, but I am still concerned that the sleeping extention does not have a full inner, I wonder why that is?.

 



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I saw one on a site a few years ago and have wanted one since but they're far too dear for me new.

Anyway I always keep an eye out for any secondhand and saw a Karsten fishing bivvy last week on fleabay. I know these are not very big but it would have been fine for me and their website says the spec is the same, it's just that they are dark green all over.

It had a buy it now of £300.00 (or so the seller told me as it already had bids on it when I noticed it) so I forgot to watch the auction end as I presumed it would go for around that. It sold for £62.00!!! - It had a small canopy as well!

I was very annoyed with myself as I could have owned a Karsten for very little.

Did anyone else see it or did anyone on here buy it? Absolute bargain.[:x]


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francias

we were there then, we must have seen you! i spoke to several people as they were keen to see what i had and thought.

i would say your wish list was the same as mine was. what colour are you thinking of? we ended up with 350 (navy) comfort, extension, front wall rain awning. just went on sat for ground sheet. which is what you could do, add on each year if you can wait lol

i am sure james wont mind me telling you you can buy a compressor from argos £25, just to save you a few pounds.

sorry to sound alittle thick but what is the full inner on the sleeping pod?

let me know if you have any questions

 



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Oh what a shame! you poor thing lol but what a bargain, don't think they seller would have been very happy. keep looking though. check out the karsten tent club sales also.

love my karsten

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Hi Vonnie.

               Yes we must have passed, I had a good chat with both James and Suzie, they are great advocates for Karsten, as for colour choice I would go for the Dark Beige, I did not have a good look at the compressor, but when I had the thankless task of inflating 200 FootBalls for a Sky TV event, I had three of the Argos type compressors give up the ghost on me!, so I would like to think the Karsten offering is more reliable, the thought of pumping up the 350 with a footpump does not thrill me, should a cheapy compressor fail. I would purchase the Karsten tent with all options in one go, so I am saving already, it may come to nothing as I am placing a friends  caravan permanantley down in the Ardeche next year, which would make for an ideal base, so I am not ruling out camping. and for doing short stays, the Karsten would be easiar and quicker to pitch than my Cabanon. as for the sleeping inner, what I meen is that on a regular tent you have a full inner for the bedroom, which is like a tent within a tent, and is suspended from the cieling and walls and clips to the floor, Karsten don't seem to offer this, they just apear to have dividers that hang down to the floor, what I like about having a full inner, for sleeping in, is if say a mozzie gets into the main tent, then that's as far as it will get, as the inner will prevent said mozzie having you as a midnight feast whilst you are fast asleep, also I feel that inners do add a little insulation from outside noise, not much but enough to make a difference.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 07/6/2010

Hi Vonnie.

               Yes we must have passed, I had a good chat with both James and Suzie, they are great advocates for Karsten, as for colour choice I would go for the Dark Beige, I did not have a good look at the compressor, but when I had the thankless task of inflating 200 FootBalls for a Sky TV event, I had three of the Argos type compressors give up the ghost on me!, so I would like to think the Karsten offering is more reliable, the thought of pumping up the 350 with a footpump does not thrill me, should a cheapy compressor fail. I would purchase the Karsten tent with all options in one go, so I am saving already, it may come to nothing as I am placing a friends  caravan permanantley down in the Ardeche next year, which would make for an ideal base, so I am not ruling out camping. and for doing short stays, the Karsten would be easiar and quicker to pitch than my Cabanon. as for the sleeping inner, what I meen is that on a regular tent you have a full inner for the bedroom, which is like a tent within a tent, and is suspended from the cieling and walls and clips to the floor, Karsten don't seem to offer this, they just apear to have dividers that hang down to the floor, what I like about having a full inner, for sleeping in, is if say a mozzie gets into the main tent, then that's as far as it will get, as the inner will prevent said mozzie having you as a midnight feast whilst you are fast asleep, also I feel that inners do add a little insulation from outside noise, not much but enough to make a difference.

Andy.


200 footballs!!! lol

i know see what you mean about the sleeping inner (sorry bit thick you know) we don't find it a problem but i guess it's something you get used too. and i can see your reasonings. if you do get a karsten compressor let me know what it's like. i had a "truck air comnpressor" first but it is quite noisy but still tend to take both lol sad aren't i. the 380 is not much bigger than the 350 only 30cm each way and yes you can get more options with the 350. how many is it for. we have a 350 and it's more than enough room for us and we don't have the sleeping extension either (major regret)

FYI i was the noisy lady ( i use the word loosely) in the long dress and sunglass'! you can't have missed me! lol

anyway let me know how you gone on

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Hi vonnie.

              Good description, I think you came over whilst I was chatting to Suzie, thing is with a Karsten tent is that it is best to think ahead and get those zip on options fitted to your starter tent, even if you never add the options, as a retro fit is not possible, why the 380 can not be fitted with some of the options seems a little odd, my Cabanon measures 370 so this gave me a good idea of size in relation to the Karsten tents I viewed, fact is there are only the two of us now for camping, our Son now 25yrs does his own thing, so the 350 with the options would be plenty big enough.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 07/6/2010

Hi vonnie.

              Good description, I think you came over whilst I was chatting to Suzie, thing is with a Karsten tent is that it is best to think ahead and get those zip on options fitted to your starter tent, even if you never add the options, as a retro fit is not possible, why the 380 can not be fitted with some of the options seems a little odd, my Cabanon measures 370 so this gave me a good idea of size in relation to the Karsten tents I viewed, fact is there are only the two of us now for camping, our Son now 25yrs does his own thing, so the 350 with the options would be plenty big enough.

Andy.


lol, good job i said it first hey!

yes that's a good idea re the zip options even if you don't get them. i'm not sure about the 380 but i am sure suzie n james would know. i was quite surprised how big the sleeping extension was mind. i haven't got the zip option for that. i wonder if you send an email if they would make a inner for you, they say they are open to ideas from owners???? just had a thought you would have the door way to close or would that be too much, but doesn't help all the way around so no use sorry

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Do you have an idea on delivery time from order?

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i really don't know i remember less in winter months email them

campingtravelstore.co.uk

 



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Hi,

 

My wife had a chat to camingtravelstore.co.uk today, and she explained it depends whether Karsten have the tent with any options your after in stock – doors, windows etc, or if it has to be made to order. Customized tents that are not in stock, can take a maximum of 6-8 weeks, but they seem to have a lot of the popular tent options in stock. For example we were looking at the 300 or 325 with the sleeping mod, and there seemed to be plenty in stock.

 

There are a few delivery options: the quickest is to have it couriered direct from Holland, which takes about a week; or you can wait to have it shipped to the Camping Travel Store as part of a bigger order, which will take a bit longer.

 

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