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Message posted by superpup on 18/4/2013 at 2:23pm
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hi everyone. i am thinking of going to arisaig for a few weeks. hopefully to camp on the sand dunes . i know all about the situation of pegging down well for high winds. but i am thinking of getting a 4 man dome tent. which make of tent would be the best for what could be high winds off the sea. i have camped there a few times. but was lucky due to no harsh weather. and low winds. i don't want to spend more than 1 hundred on a tent. any suggestions would be good. i used to fill 4 large black plastic bags with sand. one in each corner. but at times. the smell was a bit. PHEW. despite being sealed up. and the wife cant take a stink like that. lol.

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Hi a cracking read which has helped as Im a first time newbie .. Can I ask I have a Hi Gear Mojave 5 the instructions aren't fully clear and the lad I spoke to in Go Outdoors didn't seem too confident with my question which is ...I can see the pegging points around the groundsheet but on the outer fly sheet there are sets of double elastic rings, now do I peg through both of these at once or as individual rings ? I hope that is clear enough to understand

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We have survide some horrendous winds when others have been destroyed, but i can tell you this was only through previous bad experiences. When we were kids our big frame tent was brought down, by some heavy winds, luckily we were staying on a farm with a blacksmith and he repaired the broken joints of our tent. My dad then went out and bought four screw in ground anchors and a couple of ratchet straps which we threw over the tent. Further tents were damaged that week but ours stayed up . When we had our own frame tent I always carried ground anchors and ratchet straps and on one occasion they came to the rescue when many tents were destroyed but ours despite being in one of the more exposed positions stayed firm.

We also had a lightweight but large tunnel type tent broken, despite everything being pegged down, this was as much to do with the accompanying rain as anything else, which meant pegs pulled out very easily, this was when I learnt about double pegging, and guying.

Having once again fixed the tent this time involving whipping tent pegs to broken poles with string, as splints, all guys were doubled up and double pegged, again our even already damaged tent survided whilst others continued to fail.I

t's amazing how strong even thin wire pegs are when double pegged( I usually use a second peg pegged across the peg holding the guy rope). I now carry all the pegs for all five of our tents in one bag(unless backpacking)that way I always have loads of spares. We always carry spare guyline on a roll and a few heavy duty stakes too.

Now as a matter of course every guyline is fully pegged when setting up the tent and as I said we always carry a large roll of 5mm paracord.

For the past two years we have had a helsport lavvu but yet to experience any really serious weather in it. but in preparation there are already extra guys tied to the upper guying points and everything is always double pegged.

 

whit regards to the double elastic rings I always peg through one or both depending on which allows me to fully drive in the peg.

 

As for Arisaig, sandy soils can be the hardest to peg out in, you may condsier using you bags filled with sand to weigh down your gylines od consider digging a hole, double pegging your guylines in it placing a rock over them and then burying the lot in sand again, you could try some snow stakes as these will work in sand too. Also flat type pegs with holes in can have wire pegs put through them and then buried to give better grip, it's all about improvisation and using what you have available at the time.


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If you are camping on sand and it gets windy, use any bungy clips and other elastic you have extend and stretch your guy lines, this will help pegs to stay in the ground.
If car camping with a small tent and it gets really windy then take the legs off your in tent table so things don't get knocked off by the bigger blusters.
Have a serious mountain quality 2 man tent handy for when your 4 man tent finally blows down.

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Quote: I can see the pegging points around the groundsheet but on the outer fly sheet there are sets of double elastic rings, now do I peg through both of these at once or as individual rings ? I hope that is clear enough to understand


Not usually, unless you are being lazy or in a rush. :)
Ground sheet will move when you stand on it, whereas the flysheet will move with the weather, so you need to put more tension on these, and set so the flysheet will shed water away from the ground sheet. From inside to out, tension groundsheet so that the elastic is just under tension. fly sheet elastic can be stretched to create a ledge that water runs off :)


Message posted by DWcamper on 09/8/2013 at 9:58am
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all good tips, but if you are camping more often in a windy environment you might consider a canvas storm tent like De Waard tents. They are able to handle strong winds very wel from 3 sides and also a headon wind depending on the canopy you have.

Message posted by Rob Nash on 10/9/2013 at 10:29pm
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Thanks for all the advice. We have recently purchased a new canvas tent after suffering sleepless nights in a cheap tent during poor over the summer. Between this forum and you tube perhaps I will be better prepared for the future.

I told my wife that we should try "double pegging" (she was sitting next to me). We both got a bit of a shock when I googled it!

 


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Thanks for a very thoughtfully post.
I always carry a few of those giant corkscrews that they use for dog leads, about a foot long. with a couple of these front and back my Outwell Colorado 5 does not go any where. You can get them for about a pound in discount stores. Cheers4now, dave

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Message posted by Hunter30062352 on 24/4/2014 at 8:30pm
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thank you for the great info!

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This is a great thread and still so relevant today as it was when originally posted! We are booked into Hurst view Leisure just outside the new forest for a long weekend at the beginning of the summer holidays this year - 25th to the 28th July. The weather forecast is currently saying gusts of wind up to 74 mph!!

Is that gonna be too much for our brand new Vango Anteus 600 tunnel tent?

Any advice would be very welcome indeed!

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Message posted by alahol2 on 08/7/2014 at 11:48pm
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No forecast that far in advance has got any more similarity to reality than a fairy story. I'm sure you have got plenty of things to worry about in life, this isn't one of them. Don't even start looking at the weather until a minimum of a week before you go, until then the forecast is poppycock.
Enjoy your weekend, the weather will be glorious. My seaweed says so.

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Haha! Thanks alahol2 I'll put my trust in your seaweed!

Just a tad paranoid about the weather coz our last (and incidentally first) weekend away was a VERY wet one - we stuck it out though! Just not sure another wet camp will persuade my other half that camping IS fun. Lol.

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but in answer to your question, no your Anteus 600 won't stand up to 75mph winds

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Windy conditions in Fife this weekend and our Kampa Croyde 6 suffered and one of the steel awning poles has sheared right through. Biggest issue seemed to be air getting up and under the groundsheet pulling up the pegs and also the wind was side on.

Contrary to received wisdom the lighter fibreglass pole tents all survived with no issues

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