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Message posted by Alisonnn on 09/9/2017 at 9:48am
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Hello everyone! I'm a newbie camper and need some weather advice...What strength of wind is generally too much to make camping comfortable? I have a Vango Drummond 400 with the tension band system.

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Hi, Alisonn, and welcome.

If you've not already done so, go to the tent review section and search for the Vango Drummond as there's some reviews on there mentioning wind. There's also an excellent sticky on the camping section of the forum about coping with wind by Sceptical Camper. Smart pitching can often make a huge difference!

Hopefully someone will be able to give you more advice based on your tent.



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The Beaufort Scale may help you (scroll down the page).

Personally I wouldn't go camping if the winds were forecast to be 28+ mph. However, it is often the case that the wind itself is a lot less than that but the forecast is for higher 'gusts'. I might risk it in that case if the campsite I was going to was sheltered.

So a lot is based on experience and judgement on the day because the forecasters don't often get it right. 28 mph is my limit though.

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Also take into account you are a newbie, experience can get you through a lot but that takes time and often a bad experience to achieve the knowledge needed to cope with stronger winds.

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Sometimes when it's windy, even if the tent stays safe, the amount of noise and buffetting makes it hard to rest, taking a lot of the fun out of the experience. I'd err on the safe side, wind-wise.

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Certainly no fun in strong winds here

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We were camped in a storm and the first thing I did was take all of the advise on here. we survived gusts of 45 -50mph no damage thankfully, but very scary.

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This may help.

https://youtu.be/QZcB-OuoQLU

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It's all about correct pitching, this comes with experience and practice. Practice pitching your tent first, before considering camping in high winds or gusts.
This way you will know your tent, if it's windy you learn how to use the wind for assistance.
My first big tent was a Vango Oregon 400, a fab tent with same tension band system which gives stability to the tent, in high winds. Mine survived high gusts, I had more faith in that tent than I do with my Outwell.

Tunnel tents are designed to shed the wind, the old adage is to pitch bum in wind. (There will be clever clogs who will say the wind change directions. That's true) depends on the lay of the land, tell tail signs are how trees and hedges bowing.
You learn how to use natural shelters, like walls, hedges and so on.
I haven't broken a pole because of the elements, unlike neighbours, with their badly pitched, tents and not having all their guy lines out.
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our Vango has withstood gusts of 45mph with a general wind speed of 25. In a big 6 man tent it was scary but it was pitched in the right direction so held well with some groundhog pegs.
In a smaller tent id be happy with a bit more than that.

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I've actually camped in steady 45mph winds (no choice) on the west coast of Mull in a small pop-up Outwell with gusts well over 55mph - scary, but nothing happened to the tent. I've also camped by Loch Tay in a supposedly sheltered site and had that tent damaged irreparably by down-draughts from the hills above, though the general wind speed was much lower. I also narrowly escaped injury when a long established tree went over because of gusts hitting the top hamper.

You obviously don't want to damage your tent and put your life and those of your family in danger so just be cautious and learn about your tent and the wind and heed advice - site owners/wardens often know their local conditions intimately as well and can advise.



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Stick your head out of a car window while somebody else is driving at 30 mph and ask yourself if you would feel comfortable erecting a tent in that wind.

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Message posted by daveyjp on 21/9/2017 at 3:11pm
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Force 10 on the west coast of Scotland was quite hairy - thankfully we only had to pitch a small dome tent, but one pole still snapped.

The issue is high wind can come at anytime. If you are fully pitched there isn't much you can do other than wait until it subsides.

During our force ten experience when we arrived on site there was what had been a large tent pitched against a Land Rover - it may even have been more of a drive away awning set up.

In all honesty it was difficult to tell as the remains were flapping around like a collapsed spinnaker.

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Thanks for all your advice. The reason I had asked was that I had a bit of an experience on Mull in August & I had wanted to go to Achmelvich last week but it looked pretty stormy. Anyway, I wimped out and had a peaceful, non windy week at Comrie Croft in Perthshire.

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The irony. Our force 10 was Achmelvich camp site about 25 years ago.

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You made a good decision, Alison. I camp for enjoyment and relaxation, not as an endurance test.
Though of course camping can sometimes feel like that!


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