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Message posted by Blackbus on 19/4/2013 at 5:47pm
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Any one had cracks appearing in their body shell? Dealer informs me they have had several in the last few months, all disputed as overloaded or pot hole damage by Bailey.

Also told that at the NEC it was let slip Baliey have had bonding issues, and that lack of timber frame reduces strength in the shell, to cope with sudden jolts (pot holes) or over loading.

Strange as the original Bailey selling point was the structural strength advertised with a Ford Mondeo and two men on the roof if I remember rightly.

I have toured Eastern Europe, Ireland and this last trip Portugal, none of which are known for the quality of their tarmac but well known for their pot holes.

I did similar trips in previous caravans, including the last Bailey Senator with no problems. Of course these were that inferior old timber construction.

Hopefully on this occasion all will be fine when my funded (200) chassi report comes back, and Bailey honour their sales pitch of producing structurally sound touring caravans.

If not there is a moral in the story and Bailey no longer make caravans suitable for touring.

 



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Message posted by jeff juke on 20/4/2013 at 10:13am
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Sounds like the usual,invent something and sell it to Joe public to test...

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Message posted by BRYANMITCH on 21/4/2013 at 1:31pm
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There is a massive re-call of 2011/2012 +2013 vans starting around now...dont know the exact details but it involves a joint low down and running the length of the van.

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Message posted by romany on 21/4/2013 at 10:11pm
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Well at least Bailey are consistent with their quality! there is none

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Message posted by Blackbus on 21/4/2013 at 10:35pm
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Not heard of that, however the floor creaks now when you walk around and is consistent with what I would expect if the joint bolts between wall and floor had started to ease from their original torque settings.

The vinyl floor covering is not attached to the floor under the front bunks.

The end bathroom can only be heated if you are on mains electric and can use a fan heater, as the heated towel rail is about as much good as a chocolate fire gaurd. Rallying in the winter has left the bathroom blind covered in mildew and the material isn't wipeable. Changed in the latest models to a more sensible material.

In France this January in the snow the Alde heating couldn't get the temperature above 19c on electric and had to be supplimented with gas. This is due to the lack of finned piping and radiators not the temperature of the fluid, a design cost saving exercise.

Interesting that the Bailey promotion of touring Australia with a Barcelona states one of the chamges made is to use the new grp coated panels to cope with the terrain, with the cut backs in Europe the roads are degenerating fast and in the poorer countries of the union they are very bad some villages have never been serviced with tarmac roads. Having toured Hungary, Croatia, Czech Republic and just got back from Portugal, where apart from the few motorways all the roads including the National Highways regularly degenerate into stretches of potholes and gravel without warning.

Those who have purchased pre 2013 models and particularly anyone who enjoys extended touring will pay the penalty for Bailey's structural shortcomings, if they have their way.



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Message posted by black ice on 22/4/2013 at 8:18am
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I was told by someone on our storage facility yesterday that Alutec vans have to go in and be re torqued every year I don't know if its true but what a pain if it is.

Sue.

Message posted by peter hib on 13/5/2013 at 10:24pm
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I too have got this problem. Purchased a Pegasus Rimini in January having only covered 50 miles (without potholes) I removed some of the covers over the roof clamping bolts to run a cable for an additional power socket, only to find cracks in the plastic around some of the clamping cut-outs I can only assume the bolts had to high a torque setting during manufacture. This problem is now in hand with the dealer. I am still waiting to hear of Bailey's reply. As for potholes Bailey said they had carried out test on rough roads over 100 of miles according to there sales pitch. Will look forward to there reply !

Message posted by michael on 13/5/2013 at 11:14pm
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read of this the other week,believe the panels are moving inside the frames and when the alu-tec frame is tight in the frame the panel cracks.i put it on here but someone said it was rubbish.i can only say what i have read and no more,i do not have one but own a bailey.wonder how the panels move when they are screwed all round.can not remember where i read it as i read a lot of magazines. will follow with interest.
forgot to say the damage was also blamed on potholes!!!!!!!!

you can see them being made on utube.

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Looking at the construction details of the panels and the clamping methods i would of thought the side wall sections at the top of the panels would have a solid plastic insert section in the last couple of inches of the panel.
I could be wrong but looking at this panel there is no insert, and could this foam?? to the edge be compressing with the need to re-tighten on a regular basis .
Could this re-tightening be causing the cracks??
A solid section would stop it from compressing, less chance of cracks.
Or should the sections be bonded instead???
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Message posted by snowy747 on 14/5/2013 at 7:57am
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Originally they said they needed regular re-torquing but I believe that was then shelved.

Ali

Message posted by michael on 14/5/2013 at 9:58am
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yes I heard that it was changed to every three years, they may need to revert that.

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No Michael, it WAS at the 3rd service but now I believe they are happy they don't need to be re-torqued at all, but I will stand corrected?

Ali

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yes i could be wrong too ali.hearing of recalls it does make you wonder why.ie.loose panels,cracking panels.why can they not be upfront and say what is going on.it would make life easier for the people who own them and put ther minds at rest.some may not know they have a problem with there caravan yet until it goes for a service.just my opinion mind.

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Can't see us ever buying again, the newer vans seem to be shoddy to say the least. Friends have the newer version of our old van and it has caused them a few headaches.

Enjoying cottage holidays now!

Ali

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