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Message posted by dogsbody42 on 19/9/2013 at 12:20pm
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Hi all,
Can anybody help please, I have a coachman festival 2005 the centre window became delaminated and after taking professional advice from 2 local dealers I used superglue to rebond it. It stuck it well but the advice was bad as the window has frosted slightly, in streaks.
I assume it was caused by a chemical reaction between window and glue.I have been quoted 300 to replace the window. Would it be worth the effort of separating the two elements of the window and would I be able to remove the frosting and what adhesive should I have used? I have every faith that somebody out there has the answer!!

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Message posted by Al+Mel on 19/9/2013 at 12:47pm
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Maybe not THE answer, but AN answer - this is the glue;

Bondrite Acrylic Weld

You might be able to get the white marks off, I had white marks from superglue on clear polycarbonate mobile phone cases I mended years ago. The marks could be polished out (the cases always broke again tho). Could be worth a go for a fiver plus postage.

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For 50 excess, I got a new bathroom window via The Caravan Club insurance. My quote was similar, around the 400 mark. If you have a few years worth of No Claims, they allow a number of small claims before the insurance amount you pay changes.

To answer the query though, I would use a 2 pack, non shrinking ceramic cement, not cyanacrolate superglue, as the two different compounds of glue work differently. I believe the superglue effectively melts the surfaces together (at a molecular level), which causes the cracking & crazing, the 2 pack type forms an extra bonding layer between the two substrates.

Not sure if this is any use, but there you go.



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There was a thread not so long ago discussing delaminated windows in detail with a lot of good advice. Try doing a search..

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Friend of mine was told the same thing. super glue, BUT use sparingly,and let the super glue run down the seal,not horizontally into the seal so the super glue dosent run inside the window. You wont beable to remove this white glaze now.

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do not believe you will remove the white marks now and a replacement is the only option.ask here

www.eeco-ltd.co.uk



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Quote: Originally posted by michael on 19/9/2013

do not believe you will remove the white marks now and a replacement is the only option.ask here

www.eeco-ltd.co.uk





Nothing to lose by trying though is there? If the marks are caused by direct contact, they are probably permanent. If they have been caused by vapour from the glue they may well polish out.

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glueing two panes together would make the marks on the inside,could be wrong.

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To all those kind people who supplied advice ref. my delaminated window,thank you. Problem sorted! sucesfully separated two parts of window, removed all white marks using BRASSO and using Bondrite adhesive re-glued window. Looks great,is waterproof and no white marks.
Thanks again

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Quote: Originally posted by dogsbody42 on 02/10/2013
To all those kind people who supplied advice ref. my delaminated window,thank you. Problem sorted! sucesfully separated two parts of window, removed all white marks using BRASSO and using Bondrite adhesive re-glued window. Looks great,is waterproof and no white marks.
Thanks again


Excellent! I bet you are extremely pleased with the repair and the hundreds of saved.

So much for the nay-sayers!

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Just fixed my delaminated window with evo-sticks sticks like s**t clear. It was 7 off the net, i removed window which was a dodle and dried the cavity of the glazing with a hair dryer and clamped the two surfaces together with a small but enough sealant to squeeze out. Sounds like brasso is a good way to clear off glue scorch marks. Good luck

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You can also obtain information from Jim Winspur of
Advanced Glass Products
Site 7 Kidderminster Road
Cutnall Green, Droitwich
Worcestershire
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Tel: 00 44 (0)1299 851525
Fax: 00 44(0)1299 851544.
Burstner some time ago introduced a fix of sorts to prevent the two layers coming apart. Introduced in Germany as a recall, I understand, as a safety measure but only applies to windows made by Polyplastic. Four small plastic screw domes, quite inobtrusive per window. Kit includes the special drill bit for plastics (ordinary twist drill will "grab"). If yours window comes within the right time frame for those affected by the recall then the kit is free. Polyplastic windows have a sticker showing the information to confirm when they were made. Jim will help you identify.

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