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Message posted by stewey on 19/5/2013 at 7:34pm
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Has anyone ever fitted one to there bell tent. .is it easy...and a daft question but what stops the rain from coming in when you have cut a hole in the canvas and you dont use your stove and chimney

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Message posted by armchaircamper on 20/5/2013 at 8:39am
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Hi Stewey,

I take it you are still talking about the Frontier stove? There are instructions hereon the Camping Solutions website.

I have fitted one to my tent and will look out some photos as I did things slightly differently. If you look at their fifth photo you can see the raw edges of the fabric showing around the edge of the flashing kit which I thought might be a fire risk so did it a bit differently. Also I sewed a flap on the outside so that I can use the tent without the stove.

It's easier to explain with photos so I'll go and look them out. Do you have a sewing machine?



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Okay, apologies for so many photos but hopefully they will help to explain how I fitted my flashing kit. This may be a bit over the top, and there are simpler ways to do it, but here goes:

1. Thanks to the lady in my local sewing shop for suggesting a way of reinforcing the edges of the hole. Take a square of calico. Pin it on the OUTSIDE of the tent, over the point where you want to cut the hole. Draw round the inside of one of the flashing rings to give the circle which you will be cutting. Pin the calico to the tent and stitch round this circle, so that you have a square stitched to the outside of your tent.


2. Cut out most of the circle, leaving a small border:


3. Cut little notches around the edge. Make sure you don't cut the stitching.


4. Push the calico through the hole from the front to the back.


5. You are left with a neat, reinforced circle on the front.


6. On the back (inside) of the tent, trim and turn under the edges of the calico square. Stitch them down.


7. Use a piece of canvas from the flap of the tent bag to make a square cover for the outside of the hole. Sew velcro round three sides. The fourth side will be stitched to the tent.

Get two strips of fabric, thread a toggle onto each, stitch the ends of each strip together to form a loop. Stitch the square flap to the tent along its bottom edge, stitching down the loops at the same time so that half of the loop is each side of the stitching, with the toggle on the lower edge. These are so you can roll down the flap and secure it out of the way.

I sewed my flap below the flue hole so that if it came undone it would fall downwards, away from the hot flue (unless the wind was blowing!).

Stitch velcro onto the tent to match up with the velcro around three sides of the flap.

I also made a small flap to cover the top edge to shed rain over the top of the flap and prevent it seeping down through the velcro. The small flap also has velcro to attach it to the main square flap at the top.   




8. Put the flashing kit in place and mark the positions of the holes.


9. Poke holes carefully at these points and bang in some eyelets for reinforcement.


10. Attach the flashing kit with the bolts. I put the brown silicone part through the hole from the inside so that all the fabric is outside the silicone and can't make contact with the hot flue.



11. The finished kit in action! (Ignore those large logs - I didn't realise at that stage that the stove burns better with smaller pieces. The kettle wasn't suitable either - you need one with a flat bottom which will be in direct contact with the stove top so it will boil.) If you remove the flue but don't want to unbolt the flashing kit, you can push a plastic cup or a tennis ball up the flashing kit to block the hole. If you want to use the tent without the stove you can remove the whole flashing kit and close the flap. I worried about the rain coming in through the stitching holes but haven't had a problem so far.



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cheers for your reply and pics..can you tell me if you have a 5 or 4 mtr tent and if any is there going to be much ropom in a 4mtr once the stoves fitted inside..ive got to work out were it will go as i may invest in a bedroom inner...also i phoned campingsolutions up who told me what do do if the chimneys not in use..either put the spark arrestor uinside the tent and use it to stop water entering the gap orbplug it with a tennis ball..i like the sound of the second option..cheers again...stewey

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Message posted by armchaircamper on 20/5/2013 at 7:43pm
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Hi again Stewey. Mine is a 4m bell and the stove doesn't get in the way with two of us in the tent. You don't say how many of you there will be and that would make a difference.

With an inner you would have limited space around the stove. I had the inner but found it left little living space, particularly as it took up slightly more than half of the tent.




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Hi sarah..a lovely set up...are the stoves warm on cold nights...and if you dont mind me askin were did you get your carpet from...cheers....stewey

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Im unsure yet as to buy a bedroom inner or just have an open space...ill make my mind up this friday as to were im going to put the stove and about sleeping space

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Message posted by daveslisa on 21/5/2013 at 9:05am
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Wow......what amazing instructions.....pics a definite bonus.....how cool are you lol

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Stewey, the stove is really cosy during the day but I don't leave it going when I'm asleep, just in case. I have plenty of layers for night time; it was chilly damp days I didn't like.

The stove takes a bit of getting used to. When we first tried cooking on it we didn't have much success as it didn't seem to be getting hot enough. However, with smaller bits of wood it roars away, especially with the flue baffle fully open and the door slightly ajar. Then you can cook anything but you have to keep feeding the stove. I've ended up investing in an axe and chopping firewood into smaller pieces. I also got this kettle as my previous one had a slight ridge around the base and wouldn't come to the boil. It needs to be in direct contact with the top of the stove.

The carpet belonged to an Outwell Montana which I used to have. I cut a slit to the centre so that it could be put in after the tent pole was up. I'm kind of unsure whether to keep using it just because it's big and bulky but it certainly makes a difference underfoot.

Enjoy all your decision making - what fun!

Daveslisa, I took photos at every stage thinking that it might be useful to someone someday.

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hi armchaircamper..stewey again..just asking how much space there is if im going to put up an inner bedroom with a frontier stove in the bell tent as well

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I haven't had an inner and a stove in the tent together so can't really say. In the 4m I think it would be cramped. However, as I said before, it depends how many people are in the tent.

Remember that the sloping sides of the tent also limit the usable space you have to move around in. There may be 4 metres width at ground level but only a metre or so at head height.

You don't necessarily have to attach the inner tent across the back part of the tent if that's not the most convenient place. You could swing it round a section or two (although the windows wouldn't line up) and sew one or two toggles onto the canvas where necessary. This might give you more options when you're thinking of how to arrange things.

Stewey, why not try out your new tent first before deciding whether to fit an inner or stove. That will give you an idea of how much space you've got to play with. It's not easy to tell from photos.

Good luck!



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Message posted by armchaircamper on 23/5/2013 at 12:06am
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Okay, this is the only photo I've got which shows the inner tent in use. I've zoomed in and lightened up the picture so you can see the inside of the tent a bit more clearly.

The inner is just beyond my daughter. If you look under the table you can see where it comes to. (I've just noticed that one chair leg is actually inside the inner.)

Look how far forward she is sitting to avoid touching the roof and imagine what space would be left if there was a stove on the other side of the table. I seem to remember it was awkward getting past the chairs to the inner tent.

I'm sure there are better ways of fitting everything in. Maybe someone else will be along with their ideas. Hope this helps!



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thanks sarah..now ill promise i wont ask you anything else about the set. up ...ha.ha..cheers again..stewey

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You're welcome! Let us know how you get on.

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