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Message posted by jayner on 02/1/2014 at 12:59pm
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There is no denying it's heavy (nearly as heavy as my Emperor).I have the camping trolley from Argos (19.99) and just strap the tents to that, makes moving them a doddle. The difficulty then is getting them in and out of the boot.

If you like Pyramids and it's just 3 of you, why not look at the new offerings from Esvo or maybe a Touraeg from Bell Tent?

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Quote: Originally posted by Tricky Tree on 31/12/2013
Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 31/12/2013I have reservations about this tent, in that it has a sewn in groundsheet, weighing nearly 30kg without the two door panels that are detachable!

Not sure if I can lift that kind of weight on my own.

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Hi DK

You might be right in that for one person this would be a big tent to pitch and move.

My favourite new small tent is this one, the Cerca, from Atomatent Link. A perfect tent for one or two I would think.




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Have you still got your Lepelaar, Tricky Tree? Surely that has to be the Big Daddy of all pyramids?

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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 02/1/2014
Hi Emma,
According to the spec sheets, the Alaska weighs 32.7kg (+ 10.6 for the separate pole bag).
By comparison, The Palamos 6 weighs 22.6kg (+ same again for the frame).

More spec below:

Alaska versus Palamos 6


I too have reservations about the Alaska being suitable as an alternative to the Palamos 6, as I believe the former is heavier.

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TT,

The Cerca tent is nice, however, it is too small for me, as I like a bit of living space separated from the bedroom section.

I can't wait to see the updated EVSO 280 and the new 340, as I really like the scallop edge and reduced number of pegging points.

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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 02/1/2014
Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 02/1/2014Hi Emma,According to the spec sheets, the Alaska weighs 32.7kg (+ 10.6 for the separate pole bag).
By comparison, The Palamos 6 weighs 22.6kg (+ same again for the frame).

More spec below:

Alaska versus Palamos 6


I too have reservations about the Alaska being suitable as an alternative to the Palamos 6, as I believe the former is heavier.

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43.3kg Alaska versus 44.4kg Palamos 6, so not much in it really.

The flysheet is the same on both of them: 100% cotton 285 g/m and the groundsheet material is identical too, so it sounds as if it comes down simply to layout preference and pegging (and, while the mobile front wall/ front porch option on the Palamos 6 is good, the side windows will always be a weak point (or weaker than the canvas walls of the Alaska, at least) and there looks to be considerably less pegging on the Alaska.

It'll be interesting to see whether Obelink come up with a front porch or canopy option for the Alaska, as per options for the comparable Cabanon Barbados (and I too think the low-level window vents are something which would improve the Barbados/Guadeloupe models).

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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 02/1/2014TT,
The Cerca tent is nice, however, it is too small for me, as I like a bit of living space separated from the bedroom section.

I can't wait to see the updated EVSO 280 and the new 340, as I really like the scallop edge and reduced number of pegging points.

DK



I really do like the vario canopy and side screens options on the Esvo 370. They look more like the de Waard designs, and far more flexible than the standard tunnel-like canopy for the Barbados or the Guadeloupe (the 380 looks comparable with the Guadeloupe, in size and weight, and the fact it a dividing curtain rather than a bedroom inner).

They are expensive optional extras, yes, but no more so than the Barbados and Guadeloupe side panels and front canopy options (probably a bit less, in fact!)



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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 02/1/2014





Have you still got your Lepelaar, Tricky Tree? Surely that has to be the Big Daddy of all pyramids?


Hi Lidds

Yes, the Lepelaar is gone unfortunately

Work means that we will be lucky to go camping twice this year so I just couldn't justify having all that money sat in the shed.

So Lepelaar gone and also just sold the Kemphaan and am now tentless.

That said, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend De Waard, fantastic tents both in terms of the design and quality of materials.

Alaska ordered though and on route and may treat myself to a second hand DevWaard on Marktplaats if I see something I like.

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It looks as if the Alaska has no roof poles? Should be a nice and easy pitch, then.

Will you please post to let us know how you get on with it, TT (and Jayner)?

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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 03/1/2014

43.3kg Alaska versus 44.4kg Palamos 6, so not much in it really.




Those are TOTAL weights of poles/frames and tent combined. Although the difference in total weights may not look significant, however, when broken down into poles/frames and tent, the difference in the weight of the tents is significant.

The frames/poles for the Palamos 6 is 22.6kg and the tent is 22.2kg.

The tent at 22.2kg for the Palamos 6 can be broken down into sections: ZIP, front panel, inner tent and main tent canvas, making them more manageable to lift as smaller loads.

Whereas for the Alaska, the poles are 10.6kg, and the tent is 32.7kg. Appart from the inner tent and the two door are removable, the rest, as in the main canvas and the SIG, has to be lifted and carried as one bulky load.

Although the weight of the poles/frame is also over 10kg, however, the poles/frame do not have to be lifted and carried as one load, as they come in sections and need to be assembled and taken apart.

Hence my reservation about the Alaska being heavier to lift and carry than the Palamos 6.

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lidds0,

All the pics for the Bedouin 340 as well as the description are lifted from the existing Bedouin 280, as confirmed by ESVO.

There will be a new version for the Bedouin 280 for 2014 too, however, no detail has been released yet.

Hence I am waiting with anticipation, and have been checking the ESVO website for updates regularly.

I really hope the new design will have an inner tent!

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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 03/1/2014
It looks as if the Alaska has no roof poles? Should be a nice and easy pitch, then.

Will you please post to let us know how you get on with it, TT (and Jayner)?



I predict the middle U frame would be the most difficult to attach to the tent, as it has the same design as the Escala 4 and Palamos 6.

Good luck with your first pitch, and I too shall look forward to your tent reviews.

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It's got one frame but looks easy to pitch, can't wait to try it. I have some Barbados side panels I used on my Palamos, will try those on the Akaska too (will take plenty of pics).

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Lovely tentage. Shame Obelink don't make side screens for the Alaska.

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