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Message posted by Dawnie3118 on 05/12/2016 at 2:47pm
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Adamclaridge ew went for 2 pods because we wanted an easy set up. We chose no awnings, apart from rain awning, because they take more time to set up/ take down etc.
Secondly we were going to go for a sleeping extension, BUT they do not take camp beds side by side ( or double) with comfort, hence the choice of another pod. Fine if you want to sleep on an air bed or SIM, which we don't.
We chose a 350 & 300 pods, we can always take down or not put up the smaller pod if weather if not good for example or to reduce the striking of the tents the following day.
We had an extra window in both pods put in & wish we had had a window in the front door, but that's a possible in the future.
For us, this set up gives us loads of room, an ensuite bedroom 😜& apart from weight of packs, a perfect set up in our eyes.

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Message posted by adamclaridge on 05/12/2016 at 3:11pm
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Dawnie, does that mean you don't even have the Comfort Awning?

Message posted by quilly101 on 05/12/2016 at 4:00pm
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With James' advice we started with a 350 pod with additional side door, comfort awning and rain canopy.(and a matching wind break a short while later) We thought we wanted an additional pod and no more awnings to front, after using the tent, we could see that more living space would need to be our priority (our pod is set up for being in complete darkness in the mornings and is used ultimately for only sleeping) We needed more awnings, so we ordered extension awning and front wall. We have been used to lounging under a tarp when we had our bell tent, so the combi awning suited us well and we ordered that too, as generally we wouldn't have the front wall down unless camping in colder months. We haven't totally ruled out getting another pod as the daughter gets older she may want her own space. The side door is there ready for it. That is what is so great about the Karsten design, start small and work up if you're not sure of what you need.

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Message posted by adamclaridge on 05/12/2016 at 4:26pm
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Quilly, what colour is your pod and when you say that it is set up for complete darkness does that mean it has no windows at all?

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Message posted by Dawnie3118 on 05/12/2016 at 4:33pm
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Adam no we don't have any awnings apart from rain awning & that's to stop rain coming in front door.
300 pod is for our bedroom & loo& 350 pod is for living in. There is plenty of room for us.

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Dark blue with the doors in the same colour and we have a piece of dark blue canvas with velcro on (like a window foil) that we put over the window at night as that's still beige, currently working on a darker canvas roof vent cover too, this is the first tent we have ever slept until 10am in! It is gloriously dark.

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Hi Adam
The key thing is to get the pod specced correctly and then build from there. For example, we added a side door in case we later wanted to add an SE or second pod. The pod cannot be changed retrospectively.

We added an SE soon afterwards. We use SIMS/airbeds, so there was no reason to spend twice as much to get a second pod. The SE is very quick and easy to pitch, it represents very good value for money per m. The flip side is that having a second pod means you have a smaller tent to take away if desired, or two tents to sell separately later on, so that's where the two pod route may ultimately be better value....

For us the front awnings are for covered and rain proof dining and cooking, but still with an outside feel, hence no ZIG as we like grass underfoot.

The RA alone acts to keep the front door dry or give some shade from the sun, but it won't give somewhere dry to cook as rain can and will drive in from 3 sides unless it's just drizzling.

If I was doing it again I would still buy a 350 with side door and a RA as the core set up. I would also stick with our colour choice of sea green which I love.

You could then add awnings if you felt the need. If you only camp in good weather and eat out if it's raining, then there's not a lot of point to the front awnings really.

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Hi Jim

Whilst we'd generally prefer nice weather, we take whatever happens, so awnings will be essential. We also mix camp cooking and eating out, depending on where we are camping, although with our current set up we have a separate tarp, similar to the Karsten one, which provides both rain and sun protection. This is also an excellent group shelter - we occasionally camp with two or three other couples and we can all, just about, fit under it.

I have to say that, from an aesthetic point of view, I like the sea green best and we don't tend to lie in much even at home so complete darkness isn't essential. I suppose that an SE could be a different colour to the main pod if we went down that route and wanted a darker ambience.

Does the standard pod (if there actually is such a thing) have just one window? And can windows be fitted in the 'front' door if required or would this compromise the roll-up action?

So many questions and possibly too much choice - still, we have to start somewhere!


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Yes, the standard pod has one window to the side above the hook up entry point - so you can have your camp kitchen there and steam from the kettle goes straight out the mesh window

You can add a window to the pod door, here's ours:



You can actually have a larger window in the door, and you can also add more windows to the pod (in theory 2 in each side)

The sea green has never been an issue for sleeping with us. In fact, the kids have slept in longer than at home! But we are early risers to be fair, so by laying in I mean 7am rather than before 6am! We also changed the colour of the curtains in the sleep extension to be sea green rather than their standard beige, which helps.

The space in the awnings is fantastic:




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Here's inside the SE (not guyed out so low end is sagging more than when fully pitched) showing the green window covers


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Message posted by Jim1977 on 07/12/2016 at 6:34pm
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Mucker - could I ask you a question / favour?

Do you have access to your awning ZIG and some scales? I was wondering how much it weights - don't worry if you can't, I'm just trying to work out the approx weight of a combined CA, EA, FW and zig.

I can weigh all the other components (and will post on here the results as I've never found anything official about the weight of the awnings).

I know your ZIG is for the CA and EA, but if I add a third to that weight I should get the weight of a ZIG which includes a FW (it should be less than a third more due to the angles on the FW, but it will give a worst case scenario weight)

I'm still entertaining the idea of pitching and striking the front awnings as one, which should go up like a bit heavier SE in theory. I know the weight of the SE, so can compare if a combined front awning would be managable and whether the load on the components would be much more than it is adding an SE....

I can also work out the approx rolled size to see what bag would be needed.

The awnings are 330x330, so the weight and pack size would be like a 325 pod, if not less as there is no weight from the air poles.

I know this runs against the modular nature of the awnings, but for us I think for weekends we could use the pod, pod and RA or pod, SE and/or RA.
For our mains camps we will always use all the awnings. So it kind of makes sense to set things up for the norm, and break it down for the exception, rather than have to build it from scratch every time.

Well, that's the theory until spring when I could get a ZIG and try it in the garden (as long as the weights add up).

The advantages as I anticipate it would be
1) quicker and simpler to pitch and strike - cross camping method would work
2) easier to keep the awnings clean and off the grass when pitching and striking
3) one bag to store / transport / pack and unpack

All just an idea at the minute, which I know I've mentioned before, but the SE is so easy and quick to pitch compared to all the awnings, its still on my mind to test.

Of course for anyone that uses different awnings every camp this would be a terrible idea. For us using pod and SE for a weekend would be very similar to using the pod, CA and FW. We would sleep in the SE and dine in the pod rather than sleep in the pod and dine in the awnings.....

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Hi everyone! I tried pitching the awnings altogether and we just couldn't manage - far too heavy and difficult to get the poles in. This could be because we are Karsten newbies though.

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Hi Kath - thanks for this info - this was my fear, lifting the CA pole proving too heavy.

My pitching technique would be

1) roll out awnings and get ZIG aligned with the pod
2) zip the CA to the pod (in same way you do the SE)*
3) peg out the key points:
Either side where the CA meets the pod
Either side where the CA and EA meet
Either side where the EA and FW meet
Either side of the FW door
4) Add CA pole**
5) Add EA pole
6) guy and peg rest of bungees

* start off zips on both sides standing inside, then step outside to zip down the sides. This could be tricky due to the extra weight of the EA hanging on the CA, unless the EA is mainly still laying flat at this point
** lifting the CA pole could be the deal breaker here, as you would be lifting some of the weight of the EA and FW too, which could be too much to manage or could damage the pole

Come to mention it - you had a damaged pole didn't you - it wasn't trying to pitch the awnings as one that caused it was it.....

Jim



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No, the pole was damaged before we tried this.
Our technique was
1. Roll out the awnings and align with the pod
2. Try to lift the back bit up to zip it to the pod.
3. Swear lots
4. Realise that it's really really heavy when all zipped together
5. Flail around a bit
6. Give up and unzip it all

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Hello Adam
We have two pods and an SE.
I'm not that keen on the SE; I find it fiddly to pitch and it has a gap to let in wind and beasties. I much prefer the second pod as a bedroom!


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