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Message posted by Mucker1884 on 25/6/2016 at 7:25am
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That Viair pump sounds excellent on the times.
We have the 350 pod, and I "over-inflate" to 4bar. Recent timings showed 6mins for one tube with The RAC 750 (240v from EHU), whilst the other tube took 9mins using the RAC 630 (12v from the car lighter socket).
8mins for both, without the need for EHU, and even on a slightly smaller pod, sound good to me!

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Message posted by quilly101 on 25/6/2016 at 3:51pm
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Or if you're in a hurry to get it up (oo-er) The T-max BA2663 inflates my 350 beams to 4 bar in 2 mins as long as its connected to the car while running, a touch slower if I'm using my leisure battery.

Message posted by Mucker1884 on 26/6/2016 at 8:37am
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Taken from another thread...

Quote: Originally posted by keai7 on 26/6/2016

...Looks like I will not be joining the exclusive Klub any time soon. The deciding factor was the lack of lighting. My husband always say I am solar powered as lots of natural lighting in any living accommodation is crucial to me. Did give the Karsten a very strong consideration




Keai7,
I appreciate there is no substitute for seeing them in the flesh, but they really aren't as dark as you'd imagine!

These were taken on our first trip... a very dull, (and I mean "DULL"!!) rainy November day, with constant grey skies over Harrogate, UK.

For reference, this is the sea green 350 pod. Standard sized window to front right and front left. (You can, of course, have these on any/all walls, where there is no door, even 2 per elevation, if so desired). Large window within the pod door. On this occasion, we also have the CA fitted (no windows on ours, but are available as optional extra) and our Flat FW (Comes with window in each door).
In the pics, we have the pvc foils fitted to all windows, but doubled up to let some air through the mesh (Doesn't affect the light issues either way). All external window covers are open of course...





There are no windows in the rear half of our pod, but still...




I guess, there are lighter colour schemes? (Steel grey and beige?)

Not sure just how much natural light you need, but don't give up too hastily... I would hate you to get to site and bump into a Karsten owner who lets you have a look around, only to find you then have regrets!


EDIT:
To show the lack of sunshine outside, and window positions (symmetrical both sides) ...









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Message posted by quilly101 on 26/6/2016 at 3:07pm
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Well demonstrated Mucker! I like how light yours is, thanks to the bespoke ability of the Karsten we headed down a different route. We had to make sure the tent was as dark as possible because I am a very light sleeper, this does mean that in the morning even when its light outside we have to turn a light on We love it, we have never slept in 'till after 9am before while camping until we got our Karsten, so it has worked for us.

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Message posted by Kes Green on 26/6/2016 at 3:23pm
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I just wear a sleep mask (and sometimes ear plugs as well) while camping, as anything other than pitch darkness will wake me up.

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I agree Kes, and I have tried, but due too(I'll be polite) perspiration issues, means that doesn't work for me.

Message posted by Jim1977 on 26/6/2016 at 4:20pm
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I must admit I normally open the windows in the pod and EA for ventilation rather than light, I like the diffuse light that comes through the tent fabric, both the beige and sea green. Only other tents and vans to the sides normally to look at anyway!

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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 26/6/2016
Taken from another thread...

Quote: Originally posted by keai7 on 26/6/2016

...Looks like I will not be joining the exclusive Klub any time soon. The deciding factor was the lack of lighting. My husband always say I am solar powered as lots of natural lighting in any living accommodation is crucial to me. Did give the Karsten a very strong consideration




Keai7,
I appreciate there is no substitute for seeing them in the flesh, but they really aren't as dark as you'd imagine!

These were taken on our first trip... a very dull, (and I mean "DULL"!!) rainy November day, with constant grey skies over Harrogate, UK.

For reference, this is the sea green 350 pod. Standard sized window to front right and front left. (You can, of course, have these on any/all walls, where there is no door, even 2 per elevation, if so desired). Large window within the pod door. On this occasion, we also have the CA fitted (no windows on ours, but are available as optional extra) and our Flat FW (Comes with window in each door).
In the pics, we have the pvc foils fitted to all windows, but doubled up to let some air through the mesh (Doesn't affect the light issues either way). All external window covers are open of course...





There are no windows in the rear half of our pod, but still...




I guess, there are lighter colour schemes? (Steel grey and beige?)

Not sure just how much natural light you need, but don't give up too hastily... I would hate you to get to site and bump into a Karsten owner who lets you have a look around, only to find you then have regrets!


EDIT:
To show the lack of sunshine outside, and window positions (symmetrical both sides) ...









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Mucker, your flat front in the last picture appears to have a zip around the outer edge, is that for the Combi awning?

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Message posted by Mucker1884 on 26/6/2016 at 7:31pm
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Skiiddy,
That's merely the single, standard zip to the front of the CA, so it will take a flat front wall, a sloping front wall (which I don't have), an EA, or the combi awning (which I don't have). But it will only take one of those, of course. As the pic stands, all I could add to that is the RA, which has a second separate shorter zip around the top of the curve. To add an EA or a combi awning, for example, I'd have to remove that flat front wall first. One full zip, for one full component (so ignoring the separate, shorter zip that takes the RA).

If I wanted to leave that FFW in, and add a combi awning, or indeed an EA outside of the FFW, I'd have to send the CA back to Holland to get an additional full zip fitted. If I wanted a similar option at the front of my EA as well, I'd have to send that back too. Add the cost of sending both of my EA & CA back, to the purchase price of a new combi awning, and you can see why I recently went for the easier, quicker, and certainly less expensive option of simply sending my RA back (to have side zips added) and purchasing the less glamorous separate side wall panels (pictured on page 231).
These side panels merely zip to the sides of the RA, and peg to ground. They aren't zipped around the full arch, unlike the combi awning.

Hope that makes sense?


EDIT:
Of course, if you think there is the slightest chance of buying a combi awning at some time in the future, you can have that/those extra zip(s) fitted at time of purchase, so no need to send anything back later!

In all honesty, I did consider the combi awning with my initial order, but ultimately decided I wouldn't get much use out of it, for how much it (and the extra zips) would have cost.
For us, and purely down to chance as opposed to wise forward thinking on my part, I'm rather happy with my later addition of the side panels, and the relative additional cost, so luckily, I'm not regretting not getting the combi awning originally!

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Message posted by Skiiddy on 26/6/2016 at 8:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 26/6/2016
Skiiddy,
That's merely the single, standard zip to the front of the CA, so it will take a flat front wall, a sloping front wall (which I don't have), an EA, or the combi awning (which I don't have). But it will only take one of those, of course. As the pic stands, all I could add to that is the RA, which has a second separate shorter zip around the top of the curve. To add an EA or a combi awning, for example, I'd have to remove that flat front wall first. One full zip, for one full component (so ignoring the separate, shorter zip that takes the RA).

If I wanted to leave that FFW in, and add a combi awning, or indeed an EA outside of the FFW, I'd have to send the CA back to Holland to get an additional full zip fitted. If I wanted a similar option at the front of my EA as well, I'd have to send that back too. Add the cost of sending both of my EA & CA back, to the purchase price of a new combi awning, and you can see why I recently went for the easier, quicker, and certainly less expensive option of simply sending my RA back (to have side zips added) and purchasing the less glamorous separate side wall panels (pictured on page 231).
These side panels merely zip to the sides of the RA, and peg to ground. They aren't zipped around the full arch, unlike the combi awning.

Hope that makes sense?


EDIT:
Of course, if you think there is the slightest chance of buying a combi awning at some time in the future, you can have that/those extra zip(s) fitted at time of purchase, so no need to send anything back later!

In all honesty, I did consider the combi awning with my initial order, but ultimately decided I wouldn't get much use out of it, for how much it (and the extra zips) would have cost.
For us, and purely down to chance as opposed to wise forward thinking on my part, I'm rather happy with my later addition of the side panels, and the relative additional cost, so luckily, I'm not regretting not getting the combi awning originally!

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You wouldn't believe how many other head scratching moments you just solved - brilliant and thank you!

We've yet to set the whole thing up and just to remind you we have the CA, EA, both front walls, both ZIG's, RA and the extender bit to connect the RA straight on to the pod & any of the awnings (I think?). Hopefully, when we live with it we can decide whether or not we need the Combi. I understand that the first awning you decide to have the adjustment carried out on is free and additional awnings are 75 euros. James at CTS reckons we shouldn't need the Combi but I' m yet to be convinced!

Roll on July, Polzeath for an extended, long weekend which will allow me plenty of playtime!


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CCC Dartmouth - Regatta, August x 4 nights







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"Connector", not "extender"... and yes, that does mean you can fit the RA to any awning (without the connector) or direct to the pod (with connector).

I don't recall anyone else having both flat and sloping fronts, so from me! (although I've been tempted... particularly once it became apparent that we can have a big window in the sloping front door, as many seem to prefer now (as I would)... but am determined not to succumb to such extravagances! LOL!)

I presume that "Freebie" would only apply if you sent back 2 (or more) awnings for the additional zips? I presume if you only send one back for the mod, it would be chargeable?

Knowing what I know now, I'm tempted to agree with James re the combi. "At worst", if you fancied it, you could do as I have, send back the RA for the zip mods, and purchase the side wall panels.
Maybe not as perfect as the combi, but an excellent substitute, at an excellent price (by comparison).
Like I say, I have no regrets on that score... Although I can fully appreciate why some would be happy to fork out for the pukka combi awning. It does look awesome, to be fair.




PS:
"Plenty of playtime" is both a luxury and a necessity, with these babies! So many options. So many configurations. Enjoy!

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