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Message posted by Jim1977 on 25/9/2016 at 4:12pm
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Hi Purple
Yes, no windows in the CA and 3 in the FW. Lighting wise this is plenty.
But ventilation wise remember those 3 are all fixed, so if you were planning to cook inside on a wet day with the FW shut then a window in the CA would be a good bet. We nearly always have the EA on and cook under the window in that.
I too was a little put off getting a CA window when I saw the sag, but I think if I was doing it again I would have added a window to the CA for those CA FW weekenders. Don't think I'd ever go so far as to send it back to add one though...
If the budget was between adding a CA or large FW window, I'd go with the FW one as it transforms the awnings

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For our very first set up, we had just the CA + FFW. As Camping Lights states, I mentioned that it was no more than a porch, akin to a porch awning on a caravan. Excellent shelter around the door. Great for stripping off muddy wellies and wet gear. Our initial thinking was that this would be our standard winter setting. However, that CA is one heck of a piece of material, and whilst I have room to lay it out in the garden, either on a nice clean patio or even hanging on a washing line, when it comes to winter drying... indoors... it's a major struggle. Suffice to say, we've never bothered with that set up again, although we have gone with just the open fronted CA in better weather (both with and without the RA fitted). Our latest winter set up has been just Pod + RA, but whilst it may well remain so, we may just use the side walls if and when we fancy it. Obviously, we can't put a front wall on that, but it is a lot deeper than the CA, and it leaves me with 3 x smaller, more manageable sections of canvas (compared to the 1 x mahoosive CA), should we need to dry indoors.

Since that first set up, I have bought a cheapish, smaller table, to fit within the confines of the CA+FFW combo, so in theory, we could have table one side, cooker the other, and whilst we don't have a window in our CA, we do of course have the 2 in the FFW doors. Alternatively, we could have our 2 x camp chairs in there, facing each other from each side (I suspect limited leg room if facing the FFW, with pod behind us), but I'd imagine that'd feel a little closed in.
So in summary, whilst we could indeed use the CA + FFW option again, I seriously doubt we would ever bother. I expect the FFW will only go on with the EA fitted too.

The 350 pics linked to by quilly do show my first set up, but I don't think the internals are on there. Like I say, we only used it as an OTT door protection/porch, but the pics aren't impressive...





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Message posted by Mucker1884 on 25/9/2016 at 7:55pm
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France - Sept 2016:

As there was no threat of rain, we opted for pod only, for the first of our two overnighters en-route, with SIMs on the floor, ready set-up food cupboard (included a few bits of crockery & cutlery etc) (handy as a small table top for kettle too), leccy fridge, one lidded box of nick-nacks/lamps etc, and an overnight bag each... We did have the bonus of a nice picnic bench though! :-)

Night one:




Was very misty in the field behind us next morning. No drips around the unprotected doorway, but the tent was packed away damp for the second leg of our journey south.

Night two:






Night 3 to 13 were spent set up just outside Frejus on the Cote D'Azur, 10 of which were our "Full set up". To fit it on, we had to sit the pod on a bit of a hump. Quite a slope from rear half to front half of pod... and slippy on the G.O. Carpet!... particularly on Muckerette's side (RHS, looking from the front).

Was windy on and off, so the side walls were up and down throughout the stay. More due to the flapping mud flaps. I had no reservations about the sturdiness of a raised side wall.









For the record, this table is 1200mm long...


For overnight storage, our 2 x comfy chairs stood in front of the food cupboard, and our dining table sat nicely sat in front of the EA window...


Was also delighted with that breathable groundsheet, both for the fit (3.5m x 2.5m) and the practicality of it, seeing as we weren't on lush grass!

For those that aren't aware, I modded the mud flaps at the base of the 2 x front doors, and I'm still highly delighted with that. As they don't drag on the floor, you don't roll mud, dust, or anything else up the canvas, when rolling a door up. A combination of (white) Gorilla tape and those spine binder things for A4 sheets of paper did the trick.
Obviously not as "sealed" as mud flaps, but I much prefer this option...

External:



Internal:


Still "roll-up-able"...




As I admit to being guilty, when it comes to tight guys (and hate flapping/sagging tarps, or in this case side panels, I do like to rely on the zip locks, where raised side panel meets RA...



For the final night, we stripped back down to the overnight set up, but re-attached the RA with the connector, and left the Carpet in place (no pegs required, as no wind)...


The two nights to get back to the UK was pod + RA due to rain on and off. We just about managed to keep ourselves dry during set-ups and strike downs, but the pod & RA both arrived home wet on the Friday. Due to a wedding on the Saturday, all was dried off in the Sunday sunshine in the garden. We even treated the pod to a hoover out, and a wipe to the groundsheet exterior, so all spic and span again, ready for the winter ahead.

Apologies for lack of internal pics (was clearly enjoying myself too much to think of others! ).
No pics, before or after, of the hole in the top vent mesh either. I'll try and remember to do an after shot next time we go away.
I'll refrain from boring you with the out and about holiday snaps, (planning a trip report if and when I find time to do one, plus the 5 x site reviews I need to do!) suffice to say we had a superb time, with weather from heaven, and can't wait for same time next year.
Looking maybe SW France next time, be that Med, Atlantic, or Canal du Midi, but I wouldn't hesitate to go back here again either... despite the lack of grass!!
With this tent, and the options it gives us, nor would I hesitate to take 2 or more overnighters to get there, or even "touring", staying 2, 3, or 4 nights at each site.

With regards to recent comments about the aesthetics of the EA being included, whilst I can fully appreciate where folk are coming from on that score, it does make for an excellent, full on holiday set up, and for trips such as these, even if it is for just one trip a year, we wouldn't be without ours, and have absolutely no regrets about adding that to our initial purchase.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... with the set up we have, and all the options that gives us, we truly do believe we have all scenarios covered... for our particular style(s) of camping, that is!

Next stop... probably a two nighter in mid-October, then full on winter mode!

Gotta love those options!




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Message posted by Jim1977 on 25/9/2016 at 8:59pm
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Great to see your full set up with the side panels Mucker, superb


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Cheers Jim.

Forgot to say, we took a couple of night time shots for the competition...






Couldn't get the moon and stars in with the tent, so took this one separately...


Just a shame we ran out of time, and didn't get them entered in time... gotta be a surefire winner in there somewhere!





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Message posted by CampingLight on 25/9/2016 at 10:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Jim1977 on 25/9/2016
Hi Purple
Yes, no windows in the CA and 3 in the FW. Lighting wise this is plenty.
But ventilation wise remember those 3 are all fixed, so if you were planning to cook inside on a wet day with the FW shut then a window in the CA would be a good bet. We nearly always have the EA on and cook under the window in that.
I too was a little put off getting a CA window when I saw the sag, but I think if I was doing it again I would have added a window to the CA for those CA FW weekenders. Don't think I'd ever go so far as to send it back to add one though...
If the budget was between adding a CA or large FW window, I'd go with the FW one as it transforms the awnings

Jim




If you wanted the ventilation with a CA & FW you might be able to get the large panel in the FW with the mesh fitted instead of the plastic window, although you would need the mother of all window foils!

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also having a nosey around the selling page on this site and see there are a couple of 350's up for grabs.

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There's always that elusive snow shot to get over winter.....

Message posted by KarKampa on 26/9/2016 at 2:30pm
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Hi Mzzy, Which set up to buy! We are a couple, retired and doing a fair bit of camping, mainly abroad. In 2014 we bought a 325 with CA/FW/RA and RA adapter from Camping Travel Store who are very helpful and actively try to stop you buying more than you need. The set up works for us with no real plans buy any more. The rain awning with adapter (straight to pod) is great for short stops and easy to fold up. As we have no plans to buy a Extension Awning the sloping front wall gives more space. Good luck deciding. The 10% off offer ends soon so that should sharpen your decision making process.
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Thanks for all the photos, great help. I can see there's not as much room with just CA and FW, but I still think it looks neater!

Driving myself and the family mad!!! So much so my hubby has said, just buy what you want, but obviously I don't want to spend a fortune and anyway, I don't know what I want, ha ha maybe it's because I'm a libra - indecisive? I think the 10% off is on for October as well tho, so I've got bit more time?

Yes I've seen the 2 on the for sale ads, but unfortunately I don't do green, typical that they are both green! Although the darker one looks more brown, if it was blue I'd snap it up 😕

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Mzzy, there's a burgundy one for sale on the free adds on here, add yesterday. Pod, CA and FW..... Not blue, but not green either!

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Thanks Jim, shall have a look 🙂

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Made first contact today with James looking for advice on my next Cabanon but very easily led onto this brand with some information heading my way in the next few days.

Soon you could have a new member of the family from north wales. Will update as this project unfolds.



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Thansk for that Jim will stick with my original intention of window in the CA. Although my plan at the moment is to just go for the pod to start and add the awnings at a later date.

Need to camp more so that my tent will die as I promised hubby I wouldn't buy until current tent needs replacing

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Quote: Originally posted by purplebean on 28/9/2016
Thansk for that Jim will stick with my original intention of window in the CA. Although my plan at the moment is to just go for the pod to start and add the awnings at a later date.

Need to camp more so that my tent will die as I promised hubby I wouldn't buy until current tent needs replacing



a window in the CA is an excellent idea as depending which way you are pitched - esp if the tent door is facing north, the ca gets little sunlight inside and a window on both sides is an excellent idea to let light into what can be a darkish area.


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