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Message posted by PlanetWilson on 01/9/2015 at 10:44am
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Yeah we always sleep with the top vents open

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Message posted by Jim1977 on 01/9/2015 at 1:09pm
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Hi El Basso

I would agree with the others that some ventilation at night is key to avoiding damp and condensation building up.

We often leave just 1 roof vent open at night as the wife and kids find it cold with the half moon vents open. I open them and the other roof vents first thing in the morning once everyone is awake and leave them open all day and the atmosphere inside remains dry and fresh.

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Message posted by el basso on 01/9/2015 at 2:38pm
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Thanks all, but it deffo isn't condensation. It wasn't draughty on Sunday night so we slept with a couple of the roof vents open and the two half-moons half-unzipped anyway - we all have Snugpaks so the cold isn't a problem.

Besides, a couple and two little-uns aren't going to make that much, not enough to leave the inside as it was. Nope, this wasn't condensation. I ran my hands over practically all the inner face of the pod fabric, and it was soaked, not just damp.

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Although it's easy for me to say, as I haven't had this happen in mine, but I reckon if it ain't drippin', it don't need fixin'! If it's cold or wet to the touch... then don't touch it... and don't let anything else touch it!

I have had signs of condensation once... first time out, last November, in the cold and wet. Stupidly slept with all vents closed, and in the morning, the "walls" and carpet-less edges of the SIG were wet inside. Not had a repeat, as we've left all 4 top vents open ever since, and occasionally (if not freezing!) an inch or two of the rear vents too (We sleep with our heads next to them).

Never noticed our canvas feeling wet, as such, but of course it's often cold/damp... I often touch the canvas (inside) first thing in the morning... I find it rather comforting!

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Message posted by Jim1977 on 01/9/2015 at 7:56pm
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Hmm, that is strange then El Basso. I guess as Mucker says, if it's not actually dripping then a watching brief might be the best policy and see if the issue reduces / disappears over time with repeated soakings / weathering in. I assume you would have to contact Karsten direct for any warranty issues as its a used purchase?

Got me wondering if there is any way to accurately date a used Karsten by sight alone, as the design has been so static for years. I'm not aware of a date label anywhere. The only 2 things I've noticed have changed is the new style awnings and the colour of the inner beam sleeves changing from pod coloured to beige

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Yesterday I hung out the pod and comfort awning in our South London garden to dry, as they were still a little damp from our camping trip. Luckily the pod sits perfectly atop my girls' trampoline, with just a slight overlap at the edges - they wasted no time in begging for friends' sleepovers in it!

As luck would have it (or not) it started raining, and carried on raining into the night, on and off. This morning the pod started to dry out, and I was greeted with a very dusty grubby-looking tent, what with London's 'dirty' rain and all - it had been damp but spotless at the camp site but here it looked like it had spent last night next to a building site. So I spent a good half-hour giving everything a thorough drenching with hose to clean it.

Guess what? Bone-dry inside. I suppose it must have been condensation, after all.

Lesson learned.


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Quote: Originally posted by Jim1977 on 01/9/2015Got me wondering if there is any way to accurately date a used Karsten by sight alone, as the design has been so static for years. I'm not aware of a date label anywhere. [/QUOTE]

Jim, I think the date of manufacture is handwritten on the PVC tent bag.

James has told me that the new pole system was introduced in 2006. I was surprised by that as, the chap who sold me the 300 & EA & CA told me it was 4 years old, ie 2009. Nevertheless the tent was in excellent condition and I paid for the pole update.

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We were away at same time basso and had same experience as I said do I did think it would be condensation. In our case my half moon vent open and top vents zero condensation ... wife's side half moon shut and above her and to get side it was wet to touch! We then had all vents open plus kitchen window pegged slightly open and no more condensation.

I did notice our pod which is blue stayed very warm well into night and outside it dropped and I expect that combination plus reduced ventilation led to condensation.

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I always keep all 4 roof vents open and the fan heater on low during the night. Helps to keep the air dry inside the pod and warm air rising can carry moisture up and out the top.

Iv never seen a wet inside even with very heavy rain.
Definitely sounded like condensation.

You'd be surprised how much moisture 1 human breathes out at night. Or alarmed!

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Well it makes sense that condensation will be a problem with the canvas wet, as it won't be so breathable.

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We sleep with the four top vents open and usually one of the lower vents.  If forecast to drop cold we leave the convector heater on low.  The only time the tent got damp was when we closed the top vents.  When the canvas gets wet, it doesn't breathe and will soon feel quite wet to the touch.


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