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Message posted by hankakampa on 16/5/2014 at 4:59pm
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achy - superb pics there - thanks so much for sharing on here!

i see you have the zip - in ground sheet for the ca, ea and fw.

if you just wanted say the ca and fw, is it still possible to use the zig ( perhaps folded up at the tent end or would you buy the shorter zig for that combination?

at the moment im just enjoying grass underfoot in the awning - i kind of like it - you get the smell of the grass and it brings a touch of the outdoors into the tent and i have 2 mats to wipe feet before stepping into the tent. but im not sure whether to order the zig or just have it natural like in the old frame tents.

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Quote: Originally posted by hankakampa on 16/5/2014
if you just wanted say the ca and fw, is it still possible to use the zig ( perhaps folded up at the tent end or would you buy the shorter zig for that combination?



Hi, we haven't tried it ourselves but James from The Camping Travelstore recommended to us that you roll up the excess zig at the tent end rather than fold. He said that the rolled up zig would tuck under the edge of the tent.

p.s. our photo's are coming soon!


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hi tricia!

thanks soo much for that info - i was thinking id need 2 separate zigs - more to carry! - just in case i couldnt decide how many awnings to put up - so thankyou very much for that info, really useful!

and yes - where are your pics! hehe


this karsten thread is becoming very useful for sharing of info and knowledge of these tents!

its great to have this resource and i cant wait to see all our summer adventure pics of our karstens!

happy karsten kamping everyone!

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Lovely following this thread and giving me plans for when Josie's arthritis means she can't help erect our new Palamos 6.

I don't fancy a trailer tent and the thought of just blowing up when we pitch seems the ideal compromise. That and they are lovely tents.

We'll have to buy used but even 10 year old tents look like they have years of life in them.

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Hi MonsterBear, Our tent is 2nd hand 2005 we looked it over at the Karsten shop & it still looked new. Its not so much the age of the tent its the use its had & if it has been looked after .
After all a 1 year old tent could have been on several camping trips in differing kinds of weather & a 10 year old tent may have been used a cpl of times each year in its life, so its not just about the age.

We could not afford to buy new & actually getting to see the tent we could see that this tent was in perfect order.

1 agree about the easy of the tents..... i have problems with my shoulder & wrist i don't think i would be much use with the larger tent we had for much longer so this tents also has the plus points of ease of pitching.

Maddie.

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hi monster bear and maddie

i wouldnt have a worry in the world buying a used karsten thats been looked after - they have a design life of at least 20 years.

i wonder how many of todays outwells ( not a cheap brand by any means! ) will be in a useable state in 20 years!


anyways, i came across this great pic to show a girl very young with a Karsten tent ... and 12 years later!

i couldnt say it better than the pic tells it!




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Message posted by Jim1977 on 17/5/2014 at 7:18am
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impressive that the colour of the tent fabric is the same, no fading! The Outwell poly cotton tents start to fade almost immediately. Just out of interest, how much living space in square metres does adding the Comfort and extension awnings and front wall create? A 3.5 x 3.5 pod would be a good bedroom for a family of 4, but would then be relying on the awnings for all living space. (Assuming someone only wants 1 pod).

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Message posted by splendidisolation on 17/5/2014 at 7:35am
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The tent's shrunk!

The only difference you can see is the fading at the very top, compared to the as new dark section just under where the canopy would be.

If you look on Marktplaats, although they usually state the age, they always say how many. 'Weeks' use it's had which gives you a better idea of the condition.

I don't think my Karsten had had much use, as I could see no fading at all. Now I've used it for five weeks, four of which were very sunny(yes, hard to believe I know here), I can see some very, very slight colour loss when I take the top square rain cap off.

I could never afford to buy any canvas tent new, (not just karsten), all my tents are secondhand. It's a compromise I'm happy with, but it does take a bit more time and effort to find the right one, in a condition that you're happy with.

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Jim1977, you posted while I was writing! There is quite a lot of fading if you look at the very top, the whole of the front wall is darker, it will have been under a canopy or even an awning covering it.

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Hi Jim

Here is a diagram of the comfortluifel,verlengluifel & afsluitwand & regenluifel .



giving the dimensions. plenty big enough for living space in my opinion.

Also nothing stopping you having some kind of tarp set up for cooking under & sitting under, if you wish, in either sunny or rainy weather.

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Forgot to mention the 380 is a large tent also to have on its own.... if i had not had the choice of the tent we picked it would have fitted us a family of 4 . you would get enough room at the front of bedroom partitions, even if beds are 2m long, to have usable space & then could add on the extra luifels..awnings canopies as & when they were needed.



The 380 with just comfortluifel & afsluitwand.

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Splendid isolation - oh yes, so there is! I thought it was two tone with the roof cap matching the vent flaps - should have gone to spec savers :)

Mjdb - thanks for the diagram and photos, the 380 looks nice!! Forgive my ignorance, but how can the pod be divided up into bedroom, living space, is there an optional inner that clips in to the back half? if so, is that only for the 380?
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They are partition ' sheets' if you like .

This is actually in a 380



They zip in & can be used in several of the base tents.

This is the sleeping unit for our tent & this can also be divided into 2 the white line you see is where it zips in. its the same in the base tents they have the zip attachments for partitions.



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Jim1977 we uses our awnings as total living space and the pod to sleep in. Certainly with ca, ea and fw we have more than enough for 3 people on a 350-even in awful weather in Cornwall.

Any way off to use our pod for a night and celebrate my eldests's 12 birthday! Pics to follow. No awnings needed with this weather!

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Just found an interesting site about an owners experience of the 300 pod plus additions, with lots of pics inside and out. They have a bespoke flat fronted wall with 2 doors and windows rather than the standard front wall. ourcanvastents.me.uk

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He makes some interesting points in his review, I didn't realise the tube sizes were different between the 240 and 280-350...thought it was just the 380 with the bigger tubes. No wonder my 220 is easy to inflate with just a foot pump...the tubes are narrower as well as it being smaller.

I do think though, he is being a little over cautious with the full set of guys for 35mph winds...I'd probably have just put four on! Better safe than sorry, and it's certainly not going anywhere.

That Cabanon Isabelle on the home page was mine...I know that as it's my photo!


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