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Message posted by mjdb on 18/5/2014 at 10:10am
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Nice link Jim will have a good read after my 3rd cuppa ....need tea o wake up lol

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oh my Jim1977 - you stumbled on a fantastic blog there!

that guy has got my dream set up - 2 x 300 pods coupled and the awnings.

1 pod bedroom - other pod living / chilling space - kamping in heaven!

this is why my next purchase will be another 300 pod with the addition of 2 extra door openings plus the pod to pod connector.

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ok, a few photos finally... (first attempt at uploading photos so sorry if they don't appear!)

The first are just from a test camp in the garden this morning to check all was ok after being packed away over winter and before our first camp later in the year. It also gave us a chance to use the Ring Automotive RAC750 240v compressor for the first time too - its great, only 4 minutes per tube.

You can see how we got windows added into the doors so we can get more light into the tent and it also allows much more airflow which helped a lot when we went to the south of France last year. James (from Camping Travel Store) had to check with Karsten if they were happy to put in these windows as he hadn't seen this done previously. It gives a good indication of how configurable these tents are. Another example James told us about was someone who asked for the doors to be zipped at the bottom too which I wish I'd thought of before we ordered






This is the only photo I can find "out in the field" so I must try harder next time and get some photos with all the other awnings on! This was at a stopover at the municipal site in Troyes on our way to the South of France last year so we only used the main pod and rain awning.



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Great photos tricia tosh.
Do you have the covers for the windows or do you not bother? would you recommend these & then from Karsten or do you think home made is possible ?

Good to know that you also recommend the 750 compressor, we have bought 1 of these obviously not been able to test it ( other than just turning it on to make sure it works ), as we don't have the tent yet. ( ohh woe don't get me started on the wait again !! ).

I think for us will make such a difference on traveling over to Europe more & doing longer UK journeys as we usually do an over night in motel/hotel which all adds to cost, but being able to to set up main tent & hey presto will give us more freedom.
Loving it already & not used it lol.

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we got the karsten window covers as hadn't even thought about making our own. The Karsten ones are typical Karsten quality and I have no doubt they will last for years but I'm sure it must be possible to make suitable ones yourself.

We did make our own curtains for inside (Karsten will provide the matching half of the zips that they sew in to the tent on some models) but to be honest after we made them we decided we weren't bothered about the dividers anyway so have never used them. Good sewing practice though!



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Is buying new the only option for us without travelling outside the UK, doesn't seem to be a domestic second hand market (I can find)? I guess once bought, no one sells them again!! This is all academic (sadly) since I've only just bought our Harrier XL, but would be useful to know for the future or for others thinking of buying.
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tricia - thanks for sharing your brilliant pics! the red looks great!
i like the open plan living / sleeping areas - its very different to my previous tents and iv got used to it now - i wouldnt want bedroom curtains up - i did think about them but now i love the open plan living and sleeping in a tent feel i get from not having " bedrooms".


Jim1977 - obviously i dont know your personal situation but the journey over to Zwaag in holland is an easy one to make. there you can see many different options on display and also see the used tents from Karsten.

i certainly have no intention of selling mine, only to add more to it.

from a new tent point of view i imagine these tents sell in small numbers in the uk compared to vango / kampa / outwell etc and so there will be only a small number for sale 2nd hand here, compared to mainland europe where they are more popular.


im in a bit of a dilemma myself owning an outwell concorde L, in that do i keep it or sell it?
i havent used it this year so far, and i dont even at this stage plan to use it. i only thought id keep it to go camping with friends because of the separated bedrooms and i sleep in my karsten open plan.

but i would like another 300pod with 2 extra doors and the variable waffle awning. so thats almost 3k worth and so i cant justify keeping the concorde L really and also having what will become the " living pod " of my karsten tent.

does anyone here know how much the connector piece costs which joins 2 same sized ( 300 pod ) together? i cant see it on the karsten website.

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Jim1977, yes I think so at the moment. The Karsten Club used to advertise secondhand ones for sale but I think they had to stop for some reason. The odd one does pop up for sale privately, but rare.

It's a shame they can't ship some of those nearly new, pre owned ones on Karstens website for a showroom here. They're still a lot of money so people prefer to view first, and just that bit more affordable. I think they'd sell well, not so much profit in it I suppose, and may impact on the new sales?

Trisha Tosh, the window you had put on the door, does it have netting on and can it be completely opened like the other windows?
My carp tent comes with a foil (non removable) window in the pod door, and the front wall. I wish mine were removable, with mesh.
I didn't realise standard pods had no windows on the doors...most pics you see either have the door rolled up or an awning on the front.

Seems strange they'd never done that before when the carp tents have it (fixed though)as standard.
All your little extras mine doesn't and can't have, mean I might need to start saving again...!
Great pics btw

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Thanks for the info toshy will look into both options ...just gotta remember how many windows we have !

Jim I agree with hankakampa it is a simple trip & maybe you could keep a look out on Marktplaats for tents around the areas you would travel for 2nd hand options.
I can help to a certain extent with areas & translation if required .....well i say i can ..I'll just ask hubby lol. You could make it all part of a holiday its how we got to choose & see our our tent.

Well hankakampa you have the same question i have been trying to find the answer to all morning!
I've had hubby searching the website to try & find even a mention of the connecting pieces, & though i understand each combination will probably warrant a different connecting piece i would have thought that at least it would be worth a mention. Can't find anything at all ....so I'm thinking its a phone call & talk to someone in the know.

Just loving how this thread is progressing with questions ideas & info from fellow campers who either have / want or just plain need a Karsten tent.


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I thought it was the 'adaption link tent' on here, is that something else then?

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Hankakampa - re your Concord, it's quite a dilemma I agree and it's hard to know what a fair 2nd hand price would be, there are not many precedents on eBay etc. I didn't really want to sell my Bear Lake 6 but in the end decided I would not use it again and it was only a 150 loss on what I paid new 4 years ago. The decision would be a lot harder if the loss was going to more.
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Could well be splendidisolation never thought to look at the English version !!
oh well kept hubby busy this morning on the Dutch website

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Actually, looking at it, that must just be to have the 'hole' put in...presume you then have to pay to fill it! (the link tent) so perhaps it is missing from the price list.

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at Jim1977 i paid 1400.00 for my concorde a year ago and tbh i reckon on about a 600 hit approx and its like a new tent!

however its the price to pay to change and if i really want a double pod karsten set up then thats the price for it i guess (-

maddie + splendidisolation - i think its going to be a phone call to karsten in zwaag to find out about the linky piece of material to connect 2 pods together.

i also wonder as a lot of karsten things are made to order, if they are able to make a piece that connects say a 325 or 350 pod to a 300 pod?

only because the whole tent is only going to be 25 or 50 cm wider and so the connecting piece might only be 12.5 or 25cm wider - not a lot and fabric can " give " a bit too and it doesnt i guess need to be super-taught all over.

i might ask! a 325 or 350 living pod connected to my 300 sleeping pod.
this is getting worse. i thought i had reached my tent in the sky! - the sky is getting bigger though!



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Quote: Originally posted by splendidisolation on 18/5/2014
I thought it was the 'adaption link tent' on here, is that something else then?



I was under the impression that was price for putting in zip and door to take a link.

That price list has been perused many times and will have to start buying more lotto tickets.

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Quote: Originally posted by Ewen c on 18/5/2014
Quote: Originally posted by splendidisolation on 18/5/2014I thought it was the 'adaption link tent' on here, is that something else then?



I was under the impression that was price for putting in zip and door to take a link.

That price list has been perused many times and will have to start buying more lotto tickets.




Yes, you're right, see my later post...it all adds up!


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