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Quote: Originally posted by campasarow on 17/7/2017
The original ones look like someone spat toothpaste on your tent! The new one looks like the ghostly image of a miniature duck has passed through your canvas!

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I think you'll find it's a miniature swan, campasarow .

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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 17/7/2017
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On that last pic, is the canvas being pushed out by somebody (or something) inside? Perhaps to highlight where to point the water bottle?

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"Was", not "is", Lidds.
As it was impossible to locate from outside due to it drying, and not wishing to soak a large area, I did the poking from inside whilst Muckerette did the squirting from outside (after I'd removed the poking finger, to avoid any capillary effect), although I had since moved outside to take the pic, maybe 30 seconds later. The indentation stayed there (and will probably remain until the next time it rains whilst pitched?) Doh!

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Quote: Originally posted by campasarow on 17/7/2017
The original ones look like someone spat toothpaste on your tent! The new one looks like the ghostly image of a miniature duck has passed through your canvas!

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Glad I'm not the only one who saw the duck!

They would have had to lay down to spit where that first lot landed!

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They look different to the first lot, so probably can discount mud splashes. I agree it'd have a pungent pong if it was spray (cat/fox/buck rabbit/armadillo). Is there any stickiness at all, on the outside (thinking aphid honeydew)?

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Quote: Originally posted by Mucker1884 on 17/7/2017
"Was", not "is", Lidds.
As it was impossible to locate from outside due to it drying, and not wishing to soak a large area, I did the poking from inside whilst Muckerette did the squirting from outside (after I'd removed the poking finger, to avoid any capillary effect), although I had since moved outside to take the pic, maybe 30 seconds later. The indentation stayed there (and will probably remain until the next time it rains whilst pitched?) Doh!






Ah, what we do in the name of canvas-lurve!

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Quote: Originally posted by The Survivors on 17/7/2017
Foxes can spray but don't often, the mark territory much like a male dog.

Buck rabbits can spray.

In both cases I would say you would have no doubt as it would smell bad. Also the quantity you are showing is not enough unless the tent was caught at the edge of the 'spray'

It does look like splashes as earlier posters have said.

On our Bear Lake 6 we had marks that showed a different colour when damp/wet and sometimes visible when dry. This was caused by minor damage to the tent fabric from a nylon kite string (kite crashed into tent, said child flying kite - not ours - pulled hard on strings over the top of the tent and caused what I can only assume we're mild friction burns on the tent), the tent never leaked and the marks eventually completely dissaperared. Is there any chance of such damage, guy lines etc. Doesn't look like they are placed as such but just thought I'd mention it.

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Thanks for that, Survivor.
Must admit, this particular city boy knows nothing worth knowing about wildlife, but even I presumed there'd be a smell. We're the only house on the street that doesn't own a bloody cat, so I know what they are capable of!

Can't see it being friction of any sort, and definitely more obvious when wet/damp, and always first noticed of a morning.
If not the first lot (from the OP), I'm convinced this is nocturnal animal. Just not sure which end it's coming from!
Pound to a penny this last lot will be gone for good by the next time we strike camp... but Lord knows if we get similar in a different area.
If we do, I'm going on nightwatch, and sitting in the car all night with camera at the ready!



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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 17/7/2017
They look different to the first lot, so probably can discount mud splashes. I agree it'd have a pungent pong if it was spray (cat/fox/buck rabbit/armadillo). Is there any stickiness at all, on the outside (thinking aphid honeydew)?




Definitely different to the first lot. They dried white, and took a couple of camps to disappear.

This latest lot (and an unphotographed episode from a month ago) dry within hours, show up more evidently when wet, and thus far, a lot less of it.
Absolutely no smell to the human nose, nor any residue, stickiness, or even any substance to them. Felt of nothing at all!



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Does it let water through the canvas where it's marked (I realise it might be hard to ascertain, since it's a tiny area)?

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Didn't appear to, Lidds, no.
Either naturally or when touched.

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Then I reckon, as has already been suggested, that it could be a contact mark from something which has been pressing against the canvas when folded.

We once bought a nearly-new Cabanon Manga TT. It was absolutely as new, not a mark on it and no damage to be seen anywhere. However, after the first downpour, no water got in at all but the 'perfect' canvas on the cabin showed what looked like ribbons, all over it and each about an inch wide (ish). It was bizarre, since when it dried, the canvas again looked perfect.

We were baffled at first - and a little upset, thinking the canvas must be somehow faulty. Then we twigged that the cabin had been folded with the strap guys still on and loose. There was no visible evidence of this when it was dry but that was it, without a doubt, since we could trace the 'ribbon' lines from where the guys clipped on. So, no staining, no rubbing, no apparent damage, no evidence of cleaning, but they'd left a trace of where they'd been folded in with the cabin canvas and so clearly had had some sort of reaction with the canvas (or with the dye, or something), which was only evident when wet.

So, my money's on a curl of guy rope, or a bit of pegging ring or section of a slider which has come into contact with the canvas when folded up. Not enough to do damage but maybe sufficient to effect some odd change to the canvas which is only visible when wet.

If it's any consolation, the marks on our TT cabin faded after a couple of soaks (and we always took the straps off and stored them separately, before packing it up).

If it's not aphid honeydew and it's too low for sap (and not sticky, in any case) and not animal spray (no pong) and you've had no spillages or accidents in or around the tent, then what else can it be?

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Quote: Originally posted by campasarow on 17/7/2017
The original ones look like someone spat toothpaste on your tent! The new one looks like the ghostly image of a miniature duck has passed through your canvas!

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I think you'll find it's a miniature swan, campasarow .





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