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Message posted by Whimp on 14/7/2014 at 7:55pm
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Because I only have the sleeping area with a sig, I can see your point, although it is swings and roundabouts. With a sig you have the choice on what to do. A simple way to help with such conditions is to use eyelets stamped into the base of the sig at strategic points. This allows you to get rid of all those nasty spills whilst maintaining, to a large extent, the reason for a sig. :)

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Quote: Originally posted by Whimp on 14/7/2014
Because I only have the sleeping area with a sig, I can see your point, although it is swings and roundabouts. With a sig you have the choice on what to do. A simple way to help with such conditions is to use eyelets stamped into the base of the sig at strategic points. This allows you to get rid of all those nasty spills whilst maintaining, to a large extent, the reason for a sig. :)



So long as you get to it before it's travelled around the tent and under things making it hard to get a sponge to it - I had to empty the porch of stuff sometimes to get to it all. There's much better things to be doing at festivals :)

Much prefer the open feeling of a porch with no GS at all tbh and no puddling issues (and no valance to step over).


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Quote: Originally posted by Filbee on 14/7/2014

So long as you get to it before it's travelled around the tent and under things making it hard to get a sponge to it - I had to empty the porch of stuff sometimes to get to it all. There's much better things to be doing at festivals :)

Much prefer the open feeling of a porch with no GS at all tbh and no puddling issues (and no valance to step over).





I tend to picture something without explaining fully :)
You put eyelets in at strategic points, and then insert a ground anchor at each of those points, usually along an edge. Because the fabric is pulled down at those points, fluids naturally travel down towards the eyelet. Where you put those eyelets is down to you, so a bit of forethought is needed. However for a concert, cheap and cheerful is apt and if it has a sig, cut it out entirely, or just cut down one side. :)

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Hi all, I have SIG and would never go back to part or no SIG !! Had beasties draughts water ingress without and none with one. Much cosier easy to erect, pack away and stays clean as we too use a tarpaulin under to throw or clean as needed and our SIG stays lovely ! Happy camping whatever your preference tho ! x

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Slugs.

I am changing my tent from one with no SIG in the porch area because of slugs.

I had to unwrap a slug from inside my stove before I could put a new gas canister in.

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Try a de-ward Smaragdeend tent, the sig is like a butoil rubber that you lay out and peg before zipping the canvas to it and erecting the tent, the inner tent then zips in and you have the best sleeping area and dressing areas with the porch area open to the elements, best tent we have ever owned, expensive, but if your a seasoned camper and amortise the cost over 10 years it's not bad at all

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Hi All...

well we in South Africa have a number of very very nasty snakes and other reptiles and some really nasty venomous scorpions amongst other things that bite & sting...

The world's most dangerous creature is the tiny, malaria carrying mosquito....

IMHO, The tent must secure my sleep zone from intrusion by aforesaid & weather....

SIG is almost not negotable


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Message posted by Caligula on 26/8/2016 at 11:08pm
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I'm not in South Africa (though born and raised in West Africa!)... am now in Suffolk......however have a lavvu with no groundsheet and don't need it...have 2 GC tents, one with SIG that's fine and one without...that has the ability to roll up and tie up the walls on a warm day, and thereby also, a properly sized sheet can then be also tied up to form a tray. Win, Win.......

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Sewn in for my previous tent and now zipped in for my Cabanon due to the weight. I would be impossible to lift otherwise.

We went to collect junior rhj296 from a scout camp and saw that he was sleeping in a tent which had just a tarpaulin on the grass. Hardly worthy of the name groundsheet. It looked very cold and draughty indeed. He said that in the night it was freezing due to the wind whistling through and it was a fight to avoid being near the edges where it was coldest.

I think we have 'spoiled' him with the goodlife !!!


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