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Message posted by Webmaster on 17/5/2005 at 8:34am
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TWO anglers have been found dead in their tent at a beauty spot.

Police made the grim discovery at Lanark Loch on Saturday morning.

It is thought that the men left their stove on by accident and were gassed as they slept.

The pair, from Kent, were believed to be in Scotland on holiday.

Police are investigating the deaths but were not treating them as suspicious.

The 20-acre Lanarkshire loch has been popular with anglers since it was stocked with carp in the 1960s.

One local, who did not want to be named said: 'It is horrible to think of this happening.

'It seems it was an accident. The men left their stove on overnight and it gassed them.

'The police found them in the morning.

'I couldn't believe it when I heard. It is such a shame



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Message posted by SirAntony on 17/5/2005 at 9:03am
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Could this be interesting?

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Tragic indeed...and a timely reminder for me..workmate is trying to organise a fishing/camping trip to one of the remote hill lochs up past Fort William...Will double check everythings off before retiring for the night(If the trip comes off..that is)Gas is always disconnected at night in our tent...5 mins work to reconnect in the morning!!

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Quote: Originally posted by SirAntony on 17/05/2005
Could this be interesting?
         this looks a good bit of kit sir. could be used in the home to .  ummm.

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Quote: Originally posted by Webmaster on 17/05/2005
Another Warning:

It is thought that the men left their stove on by accident and were gassed as they slept.  .... After seeing this - wondering what the difference is in gas fridge being left on


Quote: Originally posted by jelboy53 on 17/05/2005


Tragic indeed...and a timely reminder for me..workmate is trying to organise a fishing/camping trip to one of the remote hill lochs up past Fort William...Will double check everythings off before retiring for the night(If the trip comes off..that is)Gas is always disconnected at night in our tent...5 mins work to reconnect in the morning!!  ........ is this the fridge as well

Jelboy.


Very sad thing to happen ....... my thoughts are with their families



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Could it be this newspaper website, perhaps?

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I think the problem may have been caused by Carbon Monoxide gas caused by leaving the gas stove lit for warmth,the problem would not occur with a fridge installed in a van because they are vented to the outside, but any gas appliance used in a confined space can be dangerous.I have seen threads on this website where some people use their gas stove as a space heater a dodgy thing unless there is plenty of ventilation. 

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I believe gas is more dangerous in a tent than in a caravan/motorhome etc as there are no ventilation "drop holes"; as gas is heavier than air it goes to the lowest level. This is generally at head height for campers laying asleep in a tent. and the gas cannot escape, whereas in a van it goes out through the ventilation holes in the floor. That is why it is important to ensure that these are left clear.

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I reckon this tragic loss of life is from carbon monoxide poisoning.  As you will know from the water heaters is holiday appartments in europe a few years ago this is a killer.

Please do not use stoves, ovens barbeques wtc to warm you tent.  Better to wake up cold than not wake at all.



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Message posted by Sooz on 19/5/2005 at 7:54pm
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Thats dreadful - so even if your tent has a ventillation panel at the top it must still be dangerous if gas sinks. Would u be ok with a non integrated ground sheet? Not that I'd ever sleep with a gas appliance on but I have used my cooker for warmth before.

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Quote: Originally posted by Cas54 on 17/05/2005
Quote: Originally posted by Webmaster on 17/05/2005
Another Warning:

It is thought that the men left their stove on by accident and were gassed as they slept.  .... After seeing this - wondering what the difference is in gas fridge being left on


Quote: Originally posted by jelboy53 on 17/05/2005


Tragic indeed...and a timely reminder for me..workmate is trying to organise a fishing/camping trip to one of the remote hill lochs up past Fort William...Will double check everythings off before retiring for the night(If the trip comes off..that is)Gas is always disconnected at night in our tent...5 mins work to reconnect in the morning!!  ........ is this the fridge as well

Jelboy.


Very sad thing to happen ....... my thoughts are with their families


Cant really speak for fridge being left on in tent using gas...As I usually use the leccy hook up for this...But my understanding of this tragic accident is that it happend in a small 2-4 man tent(as most anglers use) where carbon monoxcide would build up quicker than in a TT if any malfunction should occur(though I would be wary of putting that to the test)Firmly belive any form of heating the tent should be disconnected before the last person gets into bed(Usually me) There are ways of keeping yourself warm once in bed without leaving gas or leccy heaters on overnight

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Hi all I know this was a long time ago that this post was made. Just to clarify what actually did happen that day ... The men pulled an unlit bbq into the tent to keep warm, it was not a gas fire.

The bbq was not alight however the firelighters that they lit the bbq with was still combusting after the bbq was put out with water.

It was the gases from the firelighters that killed them both.

I know this as I am one of the deceased wife and after all the investigations this was the report.

I am posting this to make all campers aware that it was more complicated than just a gas fire.

Thank you for taking the time to read this x

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Bev1971 I am sorry to hear one of these men was your husband. Unfortunately this still happens and people are still dying by bringing BBQ into their tents even when they have gone out. I have seen warnings on BBQ's recently advising not to do this. It's a tragedy. I hope you are coping with your loss and moving on.

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Bev1971, I am sorry to learn of the circumstances of your tragic loss:(
As BarbieGirl has just said i hope you are in some way coming to terms with this, and i for one would like to thank you for putting this back in the spotlight - until i read your post i would never have thought of the consequences:(

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So sad indeed, and another reminder for us all to print and share the CO warning poster, found in the link in my signature. Lets spread the word and help stop this from happening again.

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Quote: Originally posted by bev1971 on 06/11/2013
Hi all I know this was a long time ago that this post was made. Just to clarify what actually did happen that day ... The men pulled an unlit bbq into the tent to keep warm, it was not a gas fire.

The bbq was not alight however the firelighters that they lit the bbq with was still combusting after the bbq was put out with water.

It was the gases from the firelighters that killed them both.

I know this as I am one of the deceased wife and after all the investigations this was the report.

I am posting this to make all campers aware that it was more complicated than just a gas fire.

Thank you for taking the time to read this x




No, No.... THANK YOU, for taking the time to write it!

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