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Message posted by Marilyn51 on 26/5/2014 at 9:30am
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We're thinking of buying a static caravan that we've seen and like. It's an old van but really lovely. The site it's on is only open for a 7 months season which suits us. My question to all you super intelligent people is do we pay council tax? The lady that owns the site has said it is 100 a year on top of site fees, but we have now been told you don't pay council tax unless it is open all year. Is she pulling a fast one? I would be grateful for any information you can give me.


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If you google council tax for static caravans there is a download regarding it from HM taxes full of information.

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Message posted by Ronni54 on 26/5/2014 at 10:22am
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You don't pay Council Tax as such, but the site charge you a portion of their business rates.

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I may be wrong but I thought that council tax was assessed on an annual basis and chargeable over a 10 month period and that the property relates to a permanent residence throughout the whole year. Whether static caravans (that can be removed) come under the same category as a permanent built property (bricks and mortar) is another question but because the site is not permanently open throughout the year I can't see how the council can make a calculation. After all, the local council will calculate the amount of council tax required for that specific year on a personal basis as circumstances can change so I can't see how a site owner can stipulate any firm agreement of funds on those grounds. The site owner will be assessed for council tax but at 100 for each unit they could well be making a substantial profit which I think would be illegal. You have already been assessed on your permanent place of residence which is your home where you live so there's only one place to get a crystal clear reply and that's from the borough council in question. If they declare that you don't have to pay any council tax then at least you know that you are not breaking any laws and can provide the evidence in writing to the site owner as well. If you consider that the site owner is claiming council tax unfairly then the council will investigate further and apply the necessary course of action.

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The only properties on caravan sites that pay Council Tax are Park Homes.
These are residential properties where the owners live in all year round and are their permanent homes.
Because these are lived in all year round, their ground rent is substantially lower than the ground rent paid on a static caravan.

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I used to pay council tax for a static on a Haven site, but I can't remember if it was direct to the council or through Haven.
I suspect that Ronni54's post is correct.

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Perhaps the law is different here in Scotland.

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Message posted by Ronni54 on 26/5/2014 at 3:00pm
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I owned statics on 2 different sites in Worcestershire for nearly 20 years and always had to pay a separate amount in April for business rates. I don't know how many vans are on your site or how big it is so can't tell you if the amount is reasonable.

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I believe that there is also a difference between Static caravans on a site that stipulates that they are for the use of the owner-occupier and their imeidiate family for leisure purposes only, and those that are owned and let 'for profit' by an individual who lets them out as part of a small business, and therefore business rates apply.
This is then further complicated by who actually owns the land that forms the pitch, the site owner for rent as in most cases, or the Static owner who may use the static as extra accomodation for non paying visitors, or as a unit for medical purposes, as a local man does for his kidney dialysis adjacent to his house.

The best people to advise you would be the local councils tax department in the area where you propose to site your static. Sometimes though it can work out cheaper and with less ties to one paticular site if people buy a large twin axel type tourer, and use it on a 'seasonal super pitch' where most mains services are connected. Some even have an Elsan emptying point within a couple of feet of the toilet locker door.

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Message posted by Francophile1947 on 27/5/2014 at 2:50pm
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Just looked at the Park Resorts website and the price of used vans is "plus Water & General Rates and Insurance".
I think it is safe to assume that those charges will also apply to new vans after the first year.

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