Home

   Log in or Register

Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Contact Us

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  UK Caravan Sites and Camp Sites
Share Google Plus  Tweet This!  Share on Facebook  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Big changes for 2014 with the C&CC
Jump To Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  ....  14 Post Reply Post New Topic
Message posted by Ina on 14/10/2013 at 2:22pm
View Ina's Profile View Profile  Visit homepage My Homepage  Quote Ina Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Ina
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Hymer Bestline B675 SL

Location: Lancashire
Joined: 31/7/2003
Posts:   2581
Site Reviews:   15
Gallery Images:   0
I have just received an email from the C&CC informing me that my Place in the Country is on its way.

But as well as that the email goes on to tell about changes to the pricing structure for one thing: there will be fluid pricing according to demand - there won't be fixed prices printed in the guide, instead there will be 'from' prices, which will then vary according to demand.

Another change is that the Age Concession will start at 60 from 2014, rather than 55.

The cancellation policy also changes from 7 days to 30 days.

It states that "38 sites will have a lower adult high season price than 2013", presumably these are the 'from' prices, which according to the club will vary with demand, so I don't understand how they can actually say that.

See this linkfor all details.

-------------
Ina

Message posted by birdman101 on 14/10/2013 at 2:27pm
View birdman101's Profile View Profile  Quote birdman101 Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
birdman101
Avatar
Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Outfit: 2013 Swift Archway Ruby & Sorento Auto

Location: Milton Keynes
Joined: 30/8/2011
Posts:   929
Site Reviews:   0
Gallery Images:   3
I have just read mine,does this mean they can alter prices after you have booked?

Message posted by Ina on 14/10/2013 at 2:31pm
View Ina's Profile View Profile  Visit homepage My Homepage  Quote Ina Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Ina
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Hymer Bestline B675 SL

Location: Lancashire
Joined: 31/7/2003
Posts:   2581
Site Reviews:   15
Gallery Images:   0
Presumably not once you have booked, I'd expect to be able to book at £whatever, then pay that price, no more, no less.

I do wonder whether it'll be like the airlines though: the nearer you get to the date you want, the more expensive it will be. But how will they decide when/whether the price will change? Are they trying to get as many bookings as early as possible? And the cancellation policy has increased to 30 days, that's quite a long time too.

-------------
Ina

Message posted by Vectratot on 14/10/2013 at 2:36pm
View Vectratot's Profile View Profile  Visit homepage My Homepage  Quote Vectratot Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Vectratot
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Vectra 2.0DTi Avondale Mayfly 25

Location: Hetton Tyne & Wear
Joined: 21/3/2005
Posts:   2263
Site Reviews:   6
Gallery Images:   0
And they wonder why they are loosing members, we had already made up our minds not to renew our membership next June after over twenty years of membership. We will now be choosing our destinations on site reviews from other people

Message posted by SGThomas on 14/10/2013 at 2:42pm
View SGThomas's Profile View Profile  Quote SGThomas Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
SGThomas
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Silver 420CP - Skoda Octavia 2lt

Location: Essex
Joined: 16/10/2007
Posts:   3110
Site Reviews:   51
Gallery Images:   3
I still have not worked out how much a site will cost, other than they are dear.

Another good reason to camp abroad!

-------------
Stuart


April/July 2014 awandering we will go
Aug/Sept 2014 Drome      

Message posted by tango55 on 14/10/2013 at 3:15pm
View tango55's Profile View Profile  Quote tango55 Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
tango55
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Volvo V50 Coachman Amara 450 2

Location: Staffordshire
Joined: 15/5/2008
Posts:   4148
Site Reviews:   9
Gallery Images:   3
I also had an e-mail from the C&CC too with the same information. So I wonder what will happen to the members between the age of 55 and 59 years that currently qualify for the concession rate? I wonder if they will they lose this benefit now until they now reach the age of 60 or continue as previous. 

Message posted by evenstephen on 14/10/2013 at 3:30pm
View evenstephen's Profile View Profile  Quote evenstephen Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
evenstephen
Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Outfit: Wellhouse Atrai Dandy Dart Quechua B

Location: 
Joined: 05/5/2010
Posts:   605
Site Reviews:   0
Gallery Images:   3
Well I just read the email and couldn't follow a word of it. Looks like no one will ever really know what the site fees actually are and everyone will probably end up paying more in the long run. Must take a look at the website and see if its any clearer.

Edit - just had a look at the website and its not a lot clearer. Just have to see how it works out but it looks as if there's going to be some potluck involved depending on when you book.

Re the Age Concession for 55-60 year olds just found this on another page:
From 1 January 2014, the age eligibility for members to get Age Concession is returning to 60 years old. However, current members aged 55 to 60 can still claim Age Concession by providing documentation of age and having their membership cards stamped at a Club Site before 21 July 2014 or at the Motorhome & Caravan Show at the NEC Birmingham (15 to 20 October 2013) or the Spring Caravan & Camping Show at the NEC Birmingham (18 to 23 February 2014).

Looks like if you've got it already as a 55-60 year old you'll keep it.

Post last edited on 14/10/2013 15:37:58

Message posted by tango55 on 14/10/2013 at 3:36pm
View tango55's Profile View Profile  Quote tango55 Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
tango55
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Volvo V50 Coachman Amara 450 2

Location: Staffordshire
Joined: 15/5/2008
Posts:   4148
Site Reviews:   9
Gallery Images:   3

I clicked on the link that takes you to their website and found the information regarding my query on my previous post. The information states: 

Remember that from 1 January 2014, the Club’s Age Concession eligibility will return to 60 years of age.

However, current members aged 55 to 60 can still claim Age Concession by providing proof of age (such as a driving licence, passport or birth certificate) and having their membership cards stamped at a Club Site before 21 July 2014.


Message posted by Reworht on 14/10/2013 at 3:41pm
View Reworht's Profile View Profile  Quote Reworht Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Reworht
Avatar
Standard Member
Standard Member

Outfit: 1996 Buccaneer Elan 15 + Rover 75

Location: North Yorks Moors
Joined: 15/3/2012
Posts:   40
Site Reviews:   6
Gallery Images:   0
Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 14/10/2013I also had an e-mail from the C&CC too with the same information. So I wonder what will happen to the members between the age of 55 and 59 years that currently qualify for the concession rate? I wonder if they will they lose this benefit now until they now reach the age of 60 or continue as previous. 



No - if you check on the website, those aged between 55 and 60 CAN still claim the age concession rate - BUT it would appear that it is now only 25%, not 30%.
The introduction of a 'shoulder' season (which PR consultancy came up with that one I wonder?), in addition to the existing low, mid and high ones, will up prices for those who are able to avoid the school holidays.
At a quick glance, children's prices have gone up, although the family rates not by so much. I'm pretty sure all of this is the result of a poor set of accounts for 2012, when site incomes were well down as a result of the poor weather - but they had already committed to a lot of expenditure in refurbishments.
Personally, I will still renew my membership - what they offer suits me and my circumstances - BUT I think a lot of people will be put off by the changes - and particularly by the idea that the rate for any one site is variable by 4 seasons now - AND whatever the Club decides is the appropriate rate at any time.

-------------
June - Mayfield Park
June - Tregarton Park
June - Cuckoo's Corner

Message posted by Ravelin on 14/10/2013 at 4:31pm
View Ravelin's Profile View Profile  Quote Ravelin Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Ravelin
Avatar
Standard Member
Standard Member

Outfit: Bailey Ranger 510 4

Location: N.E. Scotland
Joined: 22/11/2012
Posts:   13
Site Reviews:   12
Gallery Images:   0
I was just looking at this myself. I'd been wondering whether to bother with renewing the membership and this change has probably made my decision. For our particular circumstances (2 adults & 1 child, so "Family deals" are more expensive) we probably just about break even on the membership fee currently. More importantly though it gives us access to a couple of sites we like that are convenient for a short, last minute decision weekend trip i.e. Tarland & Nairn.

Ignoring the new "Shoulder" season (which looks like it replaces a lot of the mid season, but probably at a higher price), both the above sites work out more expensive, largely due to the increase in child prices and the apparent removal of "children go free" in low season. My quick calcs for us as a family per night, assuming a mid range price on the new bands for each season and not pricing in a "club service" pitch, are as follows.

Nairn 2013 (H,M,L) £17.40, £13.55, £9.00
Tarland 2013 (H,M,L) £22.10, £17.15, £12.10

Band 3 Site 2014 (H,M,L) £22.25, £18.50, £15.00

Since both Tarland & Nairn are Band 3, Tarland will be slightly more expensive overall but Nairn will be vastly more expensive next year. Add the cost of a service pitch at £3.85 or £4.85 if it's hard standing (sneaky additional increase there?) and we can easily find cheaper independent sites that don't involve having to pay a yearly £40 membership fee.

Now I'm sure it'll vary from site to site but for us this seems to be a killer blow. Cheap low season prices were the main attraction for us in joining the C&CC but at £19-20 per night it's just no longer cheap enough to offset the membership fee.

William

Message posted by Vectratot on 14/10/2013 at 5:50pm
View Vectratot's Profile View Profile  Visit homepage My Homepage  Quote Vectratot Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Vectratot
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Vectra 2.0DTi Avondale Mayfly 25

Location: Hetton Tyne & Wear
Joined: 21/3/2005
Posts:   2263
Site Reviews:   6
Gallery Images:   0
Add the cost of a service pitch at £3.85 or £4.85 depending on if its a hard standing? that just says it all.

Message posted by Bernie47 on 14/10/2013 at 6:06pm
View Bernie47's Profile View Profile  Quote Bernie47 Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Bernie47
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Outwell Vango Gelert Lichfield

Location: Scottish Borders
Joined: 05/7/2006
Posts:   4687
Site Reviews:   10
Tent Reviews:   1
Gallery Images:   3

I left about five years ago after many years of membership and I have since found several sites that are as good or better than club sites and are invariably cheaper.

 



-------------
Bernie

Message posted by Ina on 14/10/2013 at 6:37pm
View Ina's Profile View Profile  Visit homepage My Homepage  Quote Ina Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Ina
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Outfit: Hymer Bestline B675 SL

Location: Lancashire
Joined: 31/7/2003
Posts:   2581
Site Reviews:   15
Gallery Images:   0
We've been members for a good few years too, but this latest change has made me seriously re-think. As someone else pointed out, the Age Concession Rate will also go down, and the introduction of a shoulder season sounds to me the equivalent of higher prices in what at the moment must be partly low season.

-------------
Ina

Message posted by pompeyjon on 14/10/2013 at 8:13pm
View pompeyjon's Profile View Profile  Quote pompeyjon Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
pompeyjon
Avatar
Gold Member
Gold Member

Outfit:  Swift archway woodford Volvo S80

Location: Nottinghamshire
Joined: 11/10/2012
Posts:   270
Site Reviews:   3
Gallery Images:   0
just had an email as well. Have to rethink renewing membership now

-------------
jon
--------
lakeside,Thorney 15-20March
lakeside,thorney 15-19may

carlyle Sk, Regina/Toronto canada JUNE/JULY
Edinburgh July

Message posted by Scrunchkins on 14/10/2013 at 8:30pm
View Scrunchkins's Profile View Profile  Quote Scrunchkins Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
Scrunchkins
Avatar
Gold Member
Gold Member

Outfit: 1978 Eriba Pan Familia

Location: Sheffield
Joined: 27/8/2012
Posts:   385
Site Reviews:   18
Tent Reviews:   3
Gallery Images:   1
I'll be thinking very carefully about renewing too. Me and the kids tend to go quite a bit during low season but if they're removing the kids go free offer it will be too expensive

-------------
Allie xx

2014 Camps
Conkers
Thrybergh Country Park, Cherry Tree Farm
Tansley BCC Meet
Ingfield Farm, Clumber Park, Wells next the Sea THS
Medispa x 2, Stapleford Steam
Elvaston, Salutation Inn Berwick upon Tweed
White House Farm Misterton

Message posted by G,Winger on 14/10/2013 at 10:02pm
View G,Winger's Profile View Profile  Quote G,Winger Quote    E-mail Topic to a Friend Tell a friend
G,Winger
Avatar
Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Outfit: coachman amara 450 outwell montana 6

Location: south yorkshire
Joined: 21/6/2004
Posts:   1015
Site Reviews:   4
Gallery Images:   1
I would have thought a major change like this to pricing policy should have been passed by a member vote at the A>G>M>.
how can they just impose this on members without any consultation. I haven't seen any mention of this in the club magazine.
I expect (and encourage) a member backlash.
stu

-------------
I predict a riot !!

Sorry, you can NOT post a reply.
You need to log in or register

Jump To Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14
Quick Links - All Forums - UK Caravan Sites and Camp Sites - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version Share Google Plus  Tweet This!  Share on Facebook


7292 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Pensions Auto-enrolment

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews]  [Facebook]

Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2014