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Message posted by SunnyGal on 14/3/2007 at 9:01pm
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Hi,

When we go away in the van we usually take our 2 dogs (rotts),last year we did,nt have so much of a problem,however this year it,s not so easy.

I,ve rung a few sites to ask about availability,these were all listed as dogs welcome,some asked on the phone what breed and when i said they were rottweilers (very well behaved ones) most have said sorry we dont accept "those".

I can understand some people being a bit wary after all the recent bad press but our dogs are extremely well behaved,friendly,well trained and are never left alone in the caravan or awning at any time,always walked on leads and we always clean up after them.

Can anyone recommend some sites thats rott friendly please,after the damp in the vans fixed (with the help of the fix it club hopefully we,ll be able to get away more and it,de be good to have an idea of places to go.

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Quote: Originally posted by SunnyGal on 14/3/2007
I,ve rung a few sites to ask about availability,these were all listed as dogs welcome,some asked on the phone what breed and when i said they were rottweilers (very well behaved ones) most have said sorry we dont accept "those".

I can understand some people being a bit wary after all the recent bad press but our dogs are extremely well behaved,friendly,well trained and are never left alone in the caravan or awning at any time,always walked on leads and we always clean up after them.


All dog owners claim this, but in the real world we know it's not quite the way it works.  There are some very irresponsible dog owners out there, so you can understand the site owner's view point.

BTW I have 2 dogs myself and some times it's difficult to find a pitch where two dogs are allowed, before you factor in thw ROt element!



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Message posted by SunnyGal on 14/3/2007 at 9:41pm
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I cant speak for all dog owners only myself,and i do exactly as i have written,but if this was the main issue then all sites would ban dogs regardless of breed,so to be honest i cant exactly understand when you say about the site owners point of view.All dogs leave "deposits" however the responsible ones clean up after them,myself included.

The sites i rang all state dogs welcome,usually maximum of 2 or 3 but it,s the breed question and reaction that has caused the problem.

It,s just annoying when mine are so well behaved and last year we went to a great site where my dogs were welcomed but there were smaller dogs running around with no owner in site,and i did,nt want to walk mine while they were around as although mine wouldent bat an eyelid,should one of the little ones go for mine then automatically mine would be to blame.

I just want to find some sites where they will be allowed.

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Message posted by chook chaser on 14/3/2007 at 10:13pm
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nickki.

I am in total agreement with you.  I was only thinking about posting this the other day.  I have a german shepherd, she is big, fluffy and harmless.  You wouldnt know we had her in the van and she is no trouble on site.  Some sites discriminate against my dog, yes their choice - but it is discrimination.  My dog is no different in size to a large retriever or labrador, and if she is well behaved and of no danger to others then why should she be banned??

Also, how do the site owners know that every breed that enters their site is a "safe dog" if they ban GSD'S and rotties because of their reputation?  Any dog can be a threat if not trained or brought up well.

And as for bothering people on site,...we went to a site in Dorset last summer and were kept awake by a cocker spaniel constantly yapping, lots and lots of little dogs fighting amongst themselves.....and where was my DANGEROUS german shepherd.....................lied asleep on the bed!!!!

its the sites loss they dont accept our dogs.....dont take it to heart


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good sites that accept larger dogs

Wareham forest Dorset - forest site with loads of walks direct from pitch in the forest

Old oaks Glastonbury - adults only, dog walk onsite, walks from site

Binghams farm Dorset - adults only, lots of dedicated dog walking trails on site


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Unfortunately all large dogs are well behaved and harmless until the first time they attack somebody and given the most recent incidents regarding Rottweilers and Pit Bull Terriers in particular, but by no means confined to those two breeds, I don't blame site owners for being selective in the breeds they allow on site, especially where there are likely to be many children running around.

When dogs which are known to be potentially dangerous are kept as pets, then no matter how well behaved they appear to be or how responsible or careful the owners are, they are likely to meet with these types of objections.

 


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I can only think the campsite owners are trying to dodge potential complaints from other campers. And while most campers would probably think themself a match for a small dog if it went for their child or themselves, many would be hesitant about wading into a fight with two Rottweilers. Could you honestly put your hand on your heart and say you could pull both dogs off someone if they were really determined to attack? I doubt it, given the size and strength of the breed. So they`re not as fully under control as you think, however well trained. Of course, you can say the same for other breeds., but Rottweilers are particularly powerful. And unless they`re tied up 24/7, a dog can get out of a caravan awning easily enough, if determined.

 



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"I can only think the campsite owners are trying to dodge potential complaints from other campers. And while most campers would probably think themself a match for a small dog if it went for their child or themselves, many would be hesitant about wading into a fight with two Rottweilers. Could you honestly put your hand on your heart and say you could pull both dogs off someone if they were really determined to attack? I doubt it, given the size and strength of the breed. So they`re not as fully under control as you think, however well trained. Of course, you can say the same for other breeds., but Rottweilers are particularly powerful. And unless they`re tied up 24/7, a dog can get out of a caravan awning easily enough, if determined."

Again i can only speak for myself,but yes i am 100 % confident in handling my dogs,i,m a breeder as well as a trainer and have brought my dogs up to know obedience and respond to commands.Dogs react exactly as they are brought up,dogs such as the st bernard and newfoundland are twice the size of a rottweiler with the strengh to match yet they are still classed as big lovable giants,and on solo holidays i have seen 2 st bernards when my own dogs were not allowed...thats discrimination.My own dogs are surrounded by crowds of adults .children and other dogs when they go to the numerous dog shows we visit every year so yes i,m sure that seeing people on a campsite is not a problem.


Yes rottweilers are powerfull,but no more so than any other large breed,i have 4 rottweilers and could take them anywhere,but only ever take 2 with me when we go away.

My dogs would never be put in a position where they could attack someone,they are always on leads on sites,putting aside the fact they are well socialised and some of the friendliest dogs you could meet.

As regards them getting out of a caravan awning,they are never left in the awning,when we are in the caravan they are asleep on the floor inside the van behind the stable door which is shut,when we are out they are with us.

Most rotts are pretty much the same size as labs so it,s not a size issue.

The recent press coverage and the attacks were of course terrible,but i,ve always strongly believed NO dog regardless of breed should ever be left alone with children.

Thankfully i,ve had a few emails from a couple of site owners who are rott friendly so we shall be making a point of visiting them in the near future.

Thanks Again

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Chook Chaser,

Lol my dogs would be the same as yours asleep on the floor,we went to southport last year and a jack russell,off lead i might add,mine were on leads,lunged at ching who,s my big boy,ching just swung his head away to avoid the jack russell who was trying to grab his face,and the owner came over and just lifted his dog away without a word of apology but if it was the other way round it would be a completely different story.
Hope you have many happy holidays with your baby

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Chelsea Girl.

Thankyou for the sites we have added them to our "must visit" list.

Kind Regards Nickki

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We have a Staffie and all dog owners seem to give us a wide berth and quickly put their dogs on a lead when we approach the dog walk! Most of the time our dog is in his cage in the car - his choice nor ours!

There was only one site we came across who wouldn't except Rotts, German Shepard, and Staffs!

I do find that eventhough a site may take dogs - when it comes to the main peak season they suddenly change their minds and not allow any dogs.


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Quote: Originally posted by SunnyGal on 15/3/2007

......The recent press coverage and the attacks were of course terrible,but i,ve always strongly believed NO dog regardless of breed should ever be left alone with children......


Agreed! I heard someone say on one of last weekend's Crufts programmes that yes a lot of children get bitten by dogs each year ( forget the statistic) but that in the overwhelming majority of those cases the biter is the family pet or some other dog with whom the child has a connection.  In other words, while stranger danger  does exist, it is not very likely and the situations needing greater vigilance are much closer to home.  MT

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We accept rots, gsds etc and have doggy day care facilities if you want them to stay on the park whilst you are away!

Having 2 gsds ourselves, one for show and one for obeidence, we are only too aware of the dog issues.  Most dogs are welcomed on this site!



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We would not have a problem with your dogs on our park.  

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Quote: Originally posted by SunnyGal on 14/3/2007

I,ve rung a few sites to ask about availability,these were all listed as dogs welcome,some asked on the phone what breed and when i said they were rottweilers (very well behaved ones) most have said sorry we dont accept "those".


Neither the Caravan Club not the Camping and Caravanning Club ban any particular breed from their Club sites.  (In fact, neither of them even asks about dogs when you book.)

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Quote: Originally posted by RogLozLee on 15/3/2007

We have a Staffie and all dog owners seem to give us a wide berth and quickly put their dogs on a lead when we approach the dog walk! Most of the time our dog is in his cage in the car - his choice nor ours!

There was only one site we came across who wouldn't except Rotts, German Shepard, and Staffs!

I do find that eventhough a site may take dogs - when it comes to the main peak season they suddenly change their minds and not allow any dogs.


We find our staffie very handy for clearing a path, the real laugh is that the Staffie is soft as s**te, the one that can be a bit funny with other dogs is the sweet cute looking Cocker Spaniel.

As has already been said the vast majority of dog attacks happens in the dogs own home, I personally would not leave a child on its own with any breed of dog.

If sites are going to ban some breeds of dog, its a same they don't also ban the unruly, ignorant breeds of children you sometimes get :-)



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