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Message posted by hillbillie on 05/12/2013 at 10:15am
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When i'm wild camping i generally use y popcan cooker but i was wondering if i could replace it with a mini version of the rocket stove.This would mean no longer having to carry fuel with me as it runs on twigs,pine cones etc which you find wherever you are.
here is how ive got on so far....

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Message posted by jelboy53 on 05/12/2013 at 11:22am
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Another excellent Idea Hillbillie But I do sometimes wish you wouldn't post them as I am always rushing off to try them.... No doubt I will be doing the same with this one....

Tried your wee tip from a few weeks ago of the room heater with tea tree lights and the terracotta plant pots...Worked well in my rather cold kitchen...

Then had the idea to try it for camping...By trying to heat my 3 man tent with it in November up in Glencoe!!

Lit the candles...and placed the pots over them...Shut the doors on the tent and sat for a couple of hours (daytime) reading while supervising the candles and pots heating up Temps were just above freezing...And there was a discernible rise in temp inside the tent!! No ill effects from smoke or fumes...But one thing worried me about the idea....Where to place candles and pots at night..So I don't kick or knock it over when thrashing about in my sleep???

For that reason I never tried it out during the night..Consensus from the guys I was with seemed to be it would be too dangerous sleeping with a naked flame (small as it is) in the tent...I'm thinking of trying a wee self contained stand for the pots similar to the ones used for heat blocks like the Highlander...Would mean candles and pots up off the floor Pots held securely in place etc..Problem of where to place it at night still remains..But I will think on that one before my next trip in Jan...

Jelboy.

Ps: edited to add..might be as well taking some twigs/cones from home for your mini rocket stove in case weather is a bit wet when you get to where you are going..Dry(ish) weather no probs gathering said twigs/cones..


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Message posted by heather + phil on 05/12/2013 at 11:52am
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Hello Hillbillie.

If you remember, I did a review of the Swiss army Volcano stove, and that too got choked up. I was going to buy a woodburner gas stove, but from what the more honest people say about them they don't appear to burn as well as they claim. I'm beginning to wonder if the best fire is an open one with a grill or spit over the top of it. The best woodburner I have is still the Kelly Kettle, which boils water very efficiently.

Thanks for the vids. They were very informative, as usual.

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Message posted by hillbillie on 05/12/2013 at 12:27pm
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sorry jelboy,i just cant help myself from twiddling with things...pleased to hear the heater made a difference in your kitchen.
i did chuckle at the thought of taking terracotta pots camping..i thought the idea was to made it as light as possible. as for your tent conundrum you've got me thinking now...first thought is make some sort of base plate that can have a string at each corner so the whole lot could be suspended above you (so it can swing like they used to do in ships)or alternatively place your kit around it as a 'protective barrier' to stop you from thrashing into it.
as for dry twigs etc if you snap dead stuff from trees it will be dry on the inside even if it seems wet.the stuff from the ground is usually pretty water logged.

I must say nothing really beats an open fire as you say phil. The thing is its not always possible or practical to have an open fire so this is an attempt at a 'middle ground solution. i did make a woodgas stove and it functioned but you have to keep feeding it from above. i'm going to do a bit more tweaking on the rocket stove..am determined to get a usable lightweight cooker out of it..maybe i need to lower my expectations a little

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Message posted by jelboy53 on 06/12/2013 at 9:20am
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Please don't apologize Hillbillie...Like Phil I always find your posts and vid's helpful and informative...Not a skinflint or anything but I am always looking for things that will make my trips more comfy..Especially in the backpacking dept...That can be used in conjunction with...or as an alternative to shop bought stuff and make my pack a bit lighter...Hence my interest in this section of the forums...

Only thing is....with all these ideas rattling round in my head and being of a certain age...I sometimes have to take a trolly to carry most of the nick nacks I take with me to make life a bit easier?????

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Message posted by heather + phil on 07/12/2013 at 9:44am
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I've never lit a fire on my wild camps, Hillbillie. The camp I did with my brother at Hope Cross was spoiled a bit by the remains of what some other people had left. It was quite a massive construction, so I can only guess that they had permission from the landowner. Perhaps they were scouts or something. Leave no trace!! For goodness sake!!

I took a walk in some private woods very near my home and it was being used to house some game birds for shooting. The woods had a huge Rhododendron bush growing out of control, litter scattered around here and there, plus loads of spent shotgun cartridges that the person shooting couldn't be *rsed to pick up. But what ever you do, don't light an open fire. Yes, it really angers me. Woodland is precious and should be managed correctly.

For these reasons I will be really looking forward to watching your future vids and hopeful that you do indeed perfect your stove.

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Message posted by mikemorrow on 08/12/2013 at 12:02pm
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Just a thought on heating. How about a UCO Mini with a double walled stainless steel cup. With small drill holes one might get a similar effect, but it would be light enough to hang.
Wood burning stoves have left my belly empty before. So I went back to the pop can.

Message posted by tankosl on 02/1/2014 at 9:35am
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Hi all,

Just to add something else to the mix........

I really like the design of the Firebox stove and a while ago I noticed they were doing a Kickstarter project.
This was to fund the Firebox Nano, which is a smaller version of the original.......well I backed the project and I'm very pleased with my Nano!!!
It folds up to roughly the size of a mobile, so would fit in a pocket. There are no loose parts to cause a problem and it sets up/packs away in seconds.
As yet, I haven't used it with wood, only with my Tatonka spirit burner (Trangia) but it works great as a shield/support with this and I'm looking forward to trying it out with wood!!!!

Check out their video to see it in action.....



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We're looking at a titanium Honey Stove with Hive extension for cycletouring in addition to the Tragnia.

Anyone got one of these?

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Message posted by spiritburner on 06/1/2014 at 4:47pm
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My nod to lightweight is a Caldera Cone. Too little fuel in a lot of the places I go for a wood burner,   although someone I was out with a few weeks back used a wood burner of some type & used cat litter pellets on it successfully.
Although I cook in the tent I wouldn't leave owt burning overnight. A good meal, warm sleeping bag plus clothing should suffice. Easy to make a hot water bottle if still cold.

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Message posted by tankosl on 07/1/2014 at 12:28am
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I think the honey stove looks great and I was very tempted to add to my collection........
The main reason I didn't go for it is, I'm sure I would get annoyed trying to piece it all together when all I want to do is eat!!!!!!
I've also got a woodgas stove that with the right fuel, gives a very hot and clean flame!!!!

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Quote: Originally posted by tankosl on 07/1/2014I think the honey stove looks great and I was very tempted to add to my collection........The main reason I didn't go for it is, I'm sure I would get annoyed trying to piece it all together when all I want to do is eat!!!!!!
I've also got a woodgas stove that with the right fuel, gives a very hot and clean flame!!!!



We've also got the Trangia Triangle that we piece together (only three sides as a triangle!) and find this a great wee cooker that gives us either a lightweight setup or as an additional burner, so the extra 2 sections for the Honey Stove shouldn't be too hard - practice makes perfect

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Message posted by hillbillie on 14/1/2014 at 5:57pm
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i've heard nothing but good things about the honey stove,seems to be a very able piece of kit.
thats a smart little thing epa611,havent seen one of them before.
i have some bad news for you jelboy...ive got another idea in the making for a meths cooker design that you dont need a pot stand for..just need some tubing and get my plumbing toolbox out
The good news is our tumble dryer has packed up so plenty of materials waiting there for experiments once ive puled it apart

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