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Message posted by zziiggss on 13/2/2009 at 8:29pm
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Hi folks, advice and any info on an Bialaddin storm lantern?

I have been given one, model 300x and i think it is as new but many years old.The lamp holds pressure but needs a mantle, I was wondering if you had any ideas about how to start one up and any general advice please

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From memory they are very similar to the Tilley pressure lamp, you may be able to download instructions for a Tilley.

It is basically just a matter of closing the valve, pumping them up a small amount, priming them, then opening the valve after the burner has heated up. Some models were fitted with a pressure relief valve that indicated when the correct pressure was attained.

Have a look here.



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Hi zziiggss.

                 My Father-in-law, is giving me his preasure lamp, it has been in his garage for over 20 years!, not sure what it is but will let you know how I get on, I am collecting it tommorow, I have looked at the video on YouTube at both Coleman NorthStar and also the Vapalux M320, interesting stuff and gives you a good insight to how these beuties work, and I like the idea of using this type of lamp, to give a retro source of light, which I feel we are loosing in this modern age.



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Many thank to your both' 

I appreciate you taking the time to answer, I am a bit confused by the meths side of it as there is not a meths burner on this lamp. perhaps there should be so I will ask my friend who gave it to me,

If I dont go upo in flames I will let you know of he outcome

Regards and thanks again George



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Two websites you may find useful:

http://www.bairstowbrothers.co.uk/vapalux/

http://www.base-camp.co.uk

I have an old Bi-Alladin Bowl Fire and a Vapalux M320 lamp.



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Hi zzjjggss.

                 Picked up my lamp from the old folks this morning, would you believe it also is a Bialaddin 300X, Army Green in colour, the meths goes at the base of the Vaporisor tube, there is a kinda Asbestos wick!, once the parafin is warm in the tube it vaporises, allowing the mantel to be lit, this inturn keeps the voporiser tube hot, continuing the cycle after the meths has all gone , mine must be a good 30 years old, so will have a go at refurbishing it first, you can still get all the spare parts, the same as for the Vapalux, there is a superb exploded diagram on the www.base-camp.co.uk site along with a detailed lighting procedure, also www.bairstowbrothers.co.uk has a good detailed parts price list, thanks bordercaz may need your help if I have problems with my new lamp, first job is a good clean up, although the structure of the lamp is in mint codition.



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Hi, once again many thanks for the assistance, its great to know that someone somewhere is able and willing to help, it restores my faith in human nature.

Regards, George



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There is no valve on a Vapalux/Bialaddin pressure lantern.
It's a cleaning control and should NOT be used to adjust the flame strength.
In normal operation this control knob should be positioned with the 'V' pointing down.
Prior to using the stove, turn the control knob a few times to raise the internal cleaning wire in the vapouriser tube.
At the base of the vapouriser there should be a wick wound around the tube and sitting in a small priming dish.

1, Raise the glass globe a little and pour meths into this dish, which will be absorbed by the wick.
2, Open the relief valve ... yes open the valve, on the filler cap.
3, Light the meths in the priming dish. (You need to raise the glass again to do this .. extra long matches are good for this.
4, Just before the priming flame burns out (hard to tell at the beginning but with use you'll get to know when) close the relief valve and pump 5 - 10 times. The mantle should 'pop' into lighting. If not, with a long match or similar light the mantle through the air vents in the top of the hood.
5, Once the mantle starts to glow, give the lantern 20 - 30 more pumps.
Enjoy the Glow!
Don't worry about over pumping the lantern, they're built to military spec. and designed to be used by 'squaddies'. The Vapalux/Bialaddin is much more robust than a similar Tilley lantern.
To extinguish, open the relief valve and watch the glow slowly decrease.



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Bordercaz ... are you selling?

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Well, I wasn't - but I don't use them any more so I suppose I'm open to offers.

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So how do we go about getting in touch?
Can e-mail messages be forwarded here or what's the drill?

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Hi spudz.

             Thanks for the info on ignition, far more exiting than getting my LED light going!, I will be giving my Bialaddin 300X a test at the weekend, it has not been lit for over 20 years!, just need to get some parafin and meths (slippery slope!), the mantle must have been replaced as it is like new, never been lit, have emptied the parafin from the lamp, due to it's possible age, just hoping all the seals and valves are still ok, the cleaning knob (plastic) apears to be siezed, could be a job for a squirt of Plus-gas me thinks.



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If the mantle is new then you'll need to burn it in first.
Do the meths priming and let the mantle material catch fire.
Don't try to pump at this stage, just let the mantle burn itself to a white, very delicate, ash!

The paraffin might actually be fine for use ... has quite a long shelf life.
If you've any doubts you could strain it through muslin cloth or chamois in case there's any water in it, ... is it cloudy in colour? That would indicate water contamination and straining through a chamois will solve that.
As mentioned by others Base Camp will have any spares you need.

Best of luck, and ...
Enjoy the Glow

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Hi spudz

               The Coleman Northstar lamps run of Petrol or Coleman fuel, as I understand things Coleman fuel is 5 per half litre, whereas Napthene (panel cleaner) same stuff is 5 for five litres, the Coleman fuel is cleaner than Petrol and works best in the Coleman lamps, would this type of fuel be suitable for the Bialaddin 300X, or is it strictly only to use pukka parafin/Kerosene?.

As for the parafin it was cloudy and sludgy, so I got rid, Mr's Francais has banned me and my new lamp from the house, since the Parafin aroma has been lingering in our house for two days now, following a little experiament with the pump/preasure action on our dining room table!. I am sure Einstein's wife was more forgiving.



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NEVER, EVER .... EVER, USE PANEL WIPE OR COLEMAN FUEL IN THIS TYPE OF LANTERN

If you use these types of fuels in your lantern, when you go to turn it off, you open the relief valve and release highly volatile, vapourised fuel ... very close to a flame.

Result? WHOOOSH, KABOOOOM!!

Very bad!

It won't be just the paraffin aroma the Mrs. will be complaining about, more likely the charred remain of dear hubby.

These lanterns, like the old Primus stoves, are designed to use paraffin/kerosene as a fuel.

if you want to try this simple experiment.
Put some paraffin in a jam jar lid and place a burning match in it. The match is extinguished.
Try the same with a few drops of Coleman/Panel wipe and see the difference.
Try this only in the open, away from buildings and people and have a fire extinguisher handy.

Disclaimer. You do this at your own risk, don't blame me if it all goes pear shaped.
The Coleman lanterns and stoves have a control valve for switching them off, no fuel vapour released near a flame.
They also have a safer Non Return Valve in the pump mechanism that locks in place, preventing pressurised fuel leaking up through a faulty pump valve.
In paraffin fueled lanterns and stove the pump NRV is a little 'pip' of nitrile rubber held in place by a spring. Over time this pip will harden and stop working, too stiff to seal the valve opening. When this happens, pressurised fuel will leak back into the pump tube. But since it's only paraffin, and so not very flamable in liquid form, there's little danger.

Hope that makes sense.

I repeat, Coleman fuel/panel wipe are highly explosive petrol fuels and should never be used in paraffin fueled devices ... unless of course ............

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Hi Spudz.

             Thanks for the advice, will obviousley just use Parafin or Kerosene, disaster averted!. was thinking of getting hold of a Coleman Northstar, very bright I am told compared to the Bialaddin 300X, will see how it glows, I am sure it will be bright enough, since I got it for free!, the Coleman is 70, and now I think about it may not be as safe due to the petrol type fuel.



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