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Message posted by H2OJules on 27/7/2014 at 9:22am
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Brilliant, thank you, I missed that last night - duh!!

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Message posted by lunalovegood on 28/7/2014 at 2:59pm
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Hi, I hope someone can help me.
I am a student going on my first camping trip to the scottish highlands at the end of August. I'm on a very tight budget and wondered if this would be safe to use?



I would not leave it plugged in overnight or anything and it would just be used for charging tablets, a DSLR camera battery and hairdryer/straighteners. THIS

Message posted by Dandyman Bob on 11/8/2014 at 4:22pm
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It is not a good idea to use one of those as doesn't have an RCD (Residual Current Device). Although more expensive it is better to get a proper camping hook up which will protect you from electrical shock, unlike a fuse.

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Totally agree with Dandyman Bob.   Have a look at this UKCS advice and consider one of the two three-socket units shown on the page in your link.

Message posted by Millerblade on 12/8/2014 at 11:45pm
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Hi everyone. Im new to camping. Can you tell me if this one is ok? Its 64.99 on go-outdoors but on camping-online website its 44.99 but as im new camping i only want to something thats totally safe!!

I plan to plug in things like iphone charger, tablet charger, radio etc.... Obviously not all at the same time.

http://www.camping-online.co.uk/mains-electrics/tent-electrics/delta-mobile-mains-unit.html

Thanks

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That looks OK, though you could probably find an in-line version for a lower price.

Don't think you'd have any problems using the three items you mention at the same time, just don't use more than one high-wattage item (kettle, toaster, hairdryer or any other appliance involving a heater) at a time!


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I have read a few times people saying inline ones have problems getting plugs in at the same time and wires getting in the way. So a few people a saw on forums said these shape are better? Not sure im a newbie.

Message posted by benellison on 28/8/2014 at 11:20pm
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Hi, would anybody have any advice on what to use when using an electrical hookup in france, the campsite has said that the pitches come with a 6amp electrical hookup. Thanks in advance

Ben

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Try to avoid using more than one high-wattage item (kettle, toaster, anything else with a heating element or powerful motor) at a time.


Message posted by andy monty on 08/3/2015 at 7:32pm
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Speaking to a qualified electrician on this subject he is at a total loss

(and has a VW old camper motorhome when he came to all out war with a site warden over his EHU which he pat tested )

which was a length of blue 2.5mm2 artic flex with blue plug and a MK master seal IP 65 2 gang socket bolted to a stainless steel box section spike which was earthed via a ring crimp to the earth on the socket which he puts in his drive away awning all suitably glanded to proved strain relief to the flex etc ......

To the regs (and he had the book to wave) the RCD and MCB or RCBO is the responsibility of the supply ((ie the site)) the RCBO should be tested 4 yearly as part of a fixed installation test requirements..... and at the point of each use by the test button and weekly checks made by the site that the test button works...... and it documented

his hook up is merely and extension lead connected to it... Bit like at home if you have a split load board or a RCBO set up you dont then need a RCD on the lawn mower for example...

in the event of a fault the RCD / RCBO at the post will trip.... and that having a MCB / RCBO at the end of a long line of flex in a tent is offering no protection to the trailing flex between the post and the 4 way socket hence the RCD/ MCB / RCBO at the end of a bit of flex is rather err silly and more voltage drop and a > resistance with additional unnecessary terminations   ...


I can see his point very well anyone else share this opinion? ok the site RCD could be faulty But bet its tested more than any "customers" RCD in line with 17th edition requirements


anyone else of this belief (ideally a qualified sparky) I know that there are many with the "best interest at heart" but someone who does this for a living cant be wide of the mark surely? ?




Message posted by saxo1 on 08/3/2015 at 10:17pm
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It depends what edition of the regs the campsite is complying with.If the site is prior to the 17th edition regs then the bollard RCD is possibly a type S 30mA time delayed RCD and isn't rated for personal protection.
As I understand it the site requires the system to undergo a periodic inspection test annually and it is advisory that an operational check is carried out at 6 monthly intervals.
The site owner is correct if he is saying that the cable isn't the correct type ,strictly speaking the cable should be HO7RNF rubber insulated cable,although few site owners would object to the blue cable.
The absence of a 30mA RCD at the consumers end will mean that there will be no personal protection from electrocution.
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Message posted by andy monty on 08/3/2015 at 10:27pm
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Thanks for that :)

was just curious more than anything can remember years ago on a site with a supply post been a wooden box with a wylex 2 way CU with 2 10a plug in B curve resettable "MCB's" behind a little rotten wooden door



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Millets offering 20% sale. Got myself a mobile mains kit for 24.

http://www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=1521&awinaffid=62066&clickref=&p=www.awin1.com/cread.php?awinmid=1521&awinaffid=62066&clickref=&p=www.millets.co.uk/equipment/023011-eurohike-mobile-mains-kit.html

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