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Message posted by oxter on 09/8/2013 at 10:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Val A on 09/8/2013
There are often hold-ups at the crossing, which is why I originally asked that this thread could be 'pinned'.  It would help if those going through over the next few days report their experiences - but I'm afraid that at the end of the day, you either have to sit and wait, or risk the Blackwall tunnel - which can be even worse sometimes!


Val, see my post on 28/08/09 on page 2 of this thread for an alternative route. We always use that route if the M25 is congested or in event of works. It is really simple and takes you on to the M25 just before the bridge, bypassing the queues. I thoroughly recommend it for those travelling from "up north".



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Message posted by fenrat on 21/12/2013 at 6:24pm
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Trying to plan a journey along the M25 is as reliable as forcasting weather a month in advance....The best thing to do especially if travelling to France via ferry is to travel the previous day and camp overnight near the ferry port and catch the 10am ferry the next morning...it takes all the stress out of the travelling.....Oh and pack some of your favourite CD's for the car.....

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Quote: Originally posted by welshwyn on 07/9/2009
You can also do A14, M11 but do not turn off onto M25, carry on down the M11 then onto the A406 heading south following the signs for London City airport. When you get to bottom of A406 follow the signs for A13 and Dartford, and this will bring you out on the last junction before the tolls, that way you avoid having to wait in the long queues to get through the tolls.



Can anyone tell me what are the best times to avoid the M25 on a friday afternoon and use route described by Welshwyn. We will be heading down near the end of July sometime on a Friday afternoon, all depends what time the other half gets away from work.
Also is the alternative route pretty straightforward?
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It is pretty straightforward but be careful you do not stray into the "London Congestion Zone" which is easy if you make a mistake.

We usually travel at weekends but I imagine a Friday afternoon is busy everywhere - especially on the Dartford Crossing and M25



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Cheers Oxta. Never gave the London congestion charge a thought. Hopefully my co-pilot will be on the ball and we will not stray of the beaten track

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Quote: Originally posted by degsytroy on 12/1/2014
Quote: Originally posted by welshwyn on 07/9/2009You can also do A14, M11 but do not turn off onto M25, carry on down the M11 then onto the A406 heading south following the signs for London City airport. When you get to bottom of A406 follow the signs for A13 and Dartford, and this will bring you out on the last junction before the tolls, that way you avoid having to wait in the long queues to get through the tolls. [/QUOTE]
Can anyone tell me what are the best times to avoid the M25 on a friday afternoon and use route described by Welshwyn. We will be heading down near the end of July sometime on a Friday afternoon, all depends what time the other half gets away from work.
Also is the alternative route pretty straightforward?
Cheers


I work with 3 people who use the bridge daily, and I use the A406 and A13 to the M25 every day to get home from work.

First, this route does not allow for the LEZ (Low emission zone). If you vehicle is diesel it must be Euro 3 or above compliant - check it here TFL Low Emission Zone link
Most motorhomes will be ok, but anything older than 2005 should be checked.

Second, I would avoid it on Fridays after 3pm until about 7pm. Even using this route will take you 25min to cross from J30 to J1A, and if you have never driven in the London area, then the A406 and A13 are only for the brave during rush hour (i.e.3pm to 6pm on a Friday)

Personally I would aim to go through in the mornings or early afternoon and if we do ever have to travel Fridays we leave it as late as possible (i.e. after 6pm) to cross.

One last tip, is even with a caravan, you can use the auto tolls. Caravans are free and the barrier will not come down on you. I have used them with our van more times than I care to remember.
Motorhomes are classes as vans (as far as the crossing laws go) so cannot use the autotolls
Quote: Originally posted by oxter on 12/1/2014It is pretty straightforward but be careful you do not stray into the "London Congestion Zone" which is easy if you make a mistake.


Using this route is no where near the congestion charge zone. You'd need to drive towards the city which is still 8 miles at the nearest point.
Do not confuse the congestion charging zone with the LEZ

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Sorry, I must have confused the signs which are close to the route.

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It seems the Dartford crossing is about to be taken over well the ruining of it aahhhh sorry meant to say running of it by Sanef from march this year.   

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See the new post about the Dartford crossing toll booth removals prior to the 'direct' charging - and the likely delays.  For those who will be using the crossing after October 2014 be aware that new payment arrangements will be in place - see here for details.  The crossing is still free between 10.00 pm and 6.00 am.

It might be an idea to 'pin' those posts to the end of this one and update the title so that everyone can see that it applies in 2014.


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Just looked through the posts from previous years and would like to ask for advice please.
We are travelling from Manchester on Thursday 31st July,on route to Folkestone for an overnight stay at Black Horse Farm
A 9.00am start should put us in the area of the M25 Dartford area around lunch time.
Is this a good or bad time to be in that area re traffic problems? Should we look for an alternative route? could someone please help with this and update us on any planned or ongoing roadworks that may affect us.
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Quote: Originally posted by dawnsunny on 14/5/2014Just looked through the posts from previous years and would like to ask for advice please.
We are travelling from Manchester on Thursday 31st July,on route to Folkestone for an overnight stay at Black Horse Farm
A 9.00am start should put us in the area of the M25 Dartford area around lunch time.
Is this a good or bad time to be in that area re traffic problems? Should we look for an alternative route? could someone please help with this and update us on any planned or ongoing roadworks that may affect us.


Many Thanks.



Hi Dawn
You should be fine - M25 is about the same as M60 really. Keep going on the main route, otherwise you'll just overthink it. Sometimes you need a bit of patience with the bridge, that's all.
It's worth checking the traffic map before you set off. If you have a smart phone, the Highways Agency have Apps for the same thing.

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Thanks so much that's been really helpful 😃

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"Work begins this week to install gantries which will house signage and technology associated with the new Dart Charge remote payment system coming into operation at the Dartford Crossing from October 2014.....

The work is being done overnight when traffic flows are lowest.

Northbound work will take place on Wednesday 14, Thursday 15, Friday 16 and Sunday 18 May. Southbound work will take place for four nights from Monday 19 May and on Tuesday 27 and Wednesday 28 May.

To enable traffic to continue to be able to travel in both directions over the crossing only one bore of the tunnel will be open to northbound traffic during the overnight work. When work takes place southbound, the Queen Elizabeth II Bridge will be closed and southbound traffic will be diverted to use the eastern bore of the tunnel."

Highways agency press release 12 May      Link The link gives a detailed schedule of work, and exact times.

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