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Message posted by Manty on 28/10/2013 at 10:22am
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Lobey you say 1 million caravanners in UK. The CC&C has 500,000 members (their figures). A little more than 10%! This post has 79 responses. Same people again and again. I think the withdrawal of membership of all of them will make no difference to the membership numbers by the end of the next season!!!! Am playing devils advocate!

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Message posted by Fat Bum on 28/10/2013 at 12:58pm
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I don't understand what all the fuss is about variable pricing ahs been a feature of the tourist industry for many years but seems to be quite acceptable. It is often the case if you book a particular week in a hotel a year in advance it may be one price, that same week 6 months in advance may cost more but leave it to 2 weeks in advance and it may be a lot cheaper. You could find that the people lying on the sunbed next to you only paid half the amount for the same holiday that you paid or they could have paid twice as much depending on when they booked.

At least the C&CC are giving you the maximum price you will pay for a particular week. If you assume that the price is going to be the higher one then it will be a bunus if you get charged the lower price.



Message posted by johnks on 28/10/2013 at 1:13pm
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I have this response from the Club today because I queried the need for change. I remain unconvinced as all the new system does is to complicate a system and bring in a variable charging structure when all we have is somewhere to pitch a tent or park a caravan. It isn't a hotel chain!


The reason for the changes that are currently being introduced is to enable the Club to develop a better campsite network for its members in the long term. Therefore, a number of challenges need to be addressed. The Club needs to be more competitive and responsive if it is to build a sustainable future and continue to be an attractive proposition for current and future generations of campers.

One of the most important changes is to allow the Club to react to changing factors such as competition, weather and events by being able to flex prices. This means that some prices may go up but will never exceed the “To” price, but also they may go down below the “From” price meaning even better value for members.

Increasing occupancy in good times, as well as the not so good times, means that the Club will have the ability to earn sufficient revenue with which to reinvest back into the sites network, so that members have access to better quality sites and facilities, but also to add new sites in great locations going forward. These may be small incremental changes for members, but overall they will have a beneficial impact on the Club and its members.

The Club’s Voluntary Officers have been fully engaged and worked alongside the Senior Management Team to deliver a Club Sites pricing strategy to ensure the future sustainability and success of the Club for the benefit of the collective membership.

Although prices may vary from time-to-time, the price payable by a member is the price confirmed at the time of booking, not when they arrive on site (unless they are an off-roader).

Because nearly all Club Sites have different booking patterns, there are no fixed rules about what is the best time to book. Choosing to book early or late doesn’t guarantee that prices will be cheaper. Booking early does ensure that members get their preferred site, pitch type and the dates they want.

Where prices are reduced, the “Great Value” stamp on the website will clearly identify these sites. Also, promotional deals may be available from time-to-time.


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Message posted by LobeyDosser on 28/10/2013 at 1:43pm
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Quote: Originally posted by happyAbi on 28/10/2013
Ah, to make it a more 'exclusive' club you mean? Keep the riff raff of mere mortals out perhaps?
Hell, does that mean i'd get sniffy looks if we were to turn up on a club site with our '84 Abi?
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Precisely!

Manty, that should have read "over one million Caravans".
I would guess that most caravans will have more than one C&CC Member, however my figures are very average.

These new price rises are still well under the price rises that I have seen in B&B and Hotel price rises.

These price rises will not affect us. We got our fingers burnt last summer when we had to cancel a holiday due to family circumstances and after being a member of C&CC for 22 years, this will our final year.
This club no longer puts its members to the fore. Money and success means more to it than anything else.



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Message posted by Manty on 28/10/2013 at 2:41pm
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Lobey, after 22 years sorry to see you leave, but I am sure you have valid reasons. Good luck in the future with your caravanning.

Message posted by SGThomas on 28/10/2013 at 2:53pm
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The reason for the changes that are currently being introduced is to enable the Club to develop a better campsite network for its members in the long term. Therefore, a number of challenges need to be addressed. The Club needs to be more competitive and responsive if it is to build a sustainable future and continue to be an attractive proposition for current and future generations of campers.

Why is it when companies make changes for marketing reasons, they always claim it is for the public's benefit?
If they had just said, we make more profit this way from campers, I would have understood and probably not have cancelled my membership.


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Message posted by Jax365 on 29/10/2013 at 10:07am
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Because nearly all Club Sites have different booking patterns, there are no fixed rules about what is the best time to book. Choosing to book early or late doesn’t guarantee that prices will be cheaper. Booking early does ensure that members get their preferred site, pitch type and the dates they want.

This has always been the case, it's nothing new, except the prices/pricing. Perhaps it's meant to encourage members to book like crazy, just like the CC club members do at the beginning of the year. As far as I can see, these changes benefit neither the campers or the wardens (poor things) but really are all about profit.

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Having "done battle" with the C&CC Management previously, I have a rough idea of how long these Price Rises will have been on the cards for and we are talking about well over a year now. So recent events such as weather or cost of living would not have influenced this decision.

This is a well thought through strategy looking towards the future of the club and it will take a long time before the finds out whether this was a good or bad decision.

Personally I think they have made a mistake, but time will tell.  



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Quote: Originally posted by Jax365 on 29/10/2013
As far as I can see, these changes benefit neither the campers or the wardens (poor things) but really are all about profit.


So what is wrong with making a profit?

If you don't make a profit there is no business - no campers, no wardens.


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Message posted by p@ul on 29/10/2013 at 9:43pm
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Nothing wrong at all in making a profit or reasonable price increases. It was the nature in which the club introduced the unreasonable and excessive price increase together with the ridicules changes to terms that upset so many of its members..........
No members, no profit, no club......... Let's not forget that the club has an elected committee voted for by its members who were then left out in the cold and expected to swallow this raft of changes in one go.
This will come back to haunt the club when members start voting with their feet and leave in their droves. Where will that leave the elected committee?...... Out in the cold where they belong.
And yes I also feel sorry for the wardens. It's them that will take the flack for all the clubs mis giving......Shame on you C&CC

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I'm aware from my own analysis that one sites charges have gone up by 85%, but it is difficult to say whether that is excessive unless you know what the underlying cost of that site is. Under the current charges is it likely that users of that site are being subsidised by users at other sites. In balance I am also aware that another sites charges have reduced by 20%.

I welcome the introduction of the flexible structure as I believe that in the longer term it will enable more profitability by increasing occupancy at sites. This will then enable the lowering of charges. But only time will tell.

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Message posted by lesr48 on 29/10/2013 at 10:39pm
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I was planning to enroll as a member of the C&CC this year, but having read the comments regarding the price structure, I will stick to Commercial site for the foreseeable future.

Message posted by darthillcat on 30/10/2013 at 5:47pm
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went on facebook to register my displeasure at the new pricing structure I wonder if the CCC will take any notice still they have to get some money back from the wood lodges fiasco but wont be from us

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After going on one of the Overseas Rallies in Portugal with the C&CC and being 'sent to Coventry' by the Marshals as we did not want to 'fund' any of their self made events I wrote and complained to the C&CC result was 'No Reply or acknowledgement'.

As a result we cancelled our membership and have never looked back.

While interestingly going around the NEC Exhibition Centre at the 'Show' we noted the 'BIG PUSH' by both C&CC & CC to get you to sign up for 'Overseas Rallies or Tours' as both activities according to the 'Financial Reports' "Did not fair well last year" Which to me means we did not make enough 'profit' from the Members!

I think if you are a 'Member' of either organisation you are now seen as a 'Profit Provider' and not a 'Member' in the true sense of the word.

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I know where you are coming from KarlFritz.

We had a similar problem a few years ago with a Marshal and his wife at a Scottish Meet and I complained to the Head Office about them and their antics.

Unlike you I kept writing until they were eventually removed from the club altogether.
But it did take a long time and I received little in the way of an apology.



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Quote: Originally posted by LobeyDosser on 30/10/2013

I know where you are coming from KarlFritz.

We had a similar problem a few years ago with a Marshal and his wife at a Scottish Meet and I complained to the Head Office about them and their antics.

Unlike you I kept writing until they were eventually removed from the club altogether.


But it did take a long time and I received little in the way of an apology.





While it's good to see Lobey that I am not the only one who has encountered this sort of treatment as a so called 'Member' it's only through this sort of forum that you get to hear about others who have experienced similar or the same 'problem', but in getting rid of the pathetic 'non service' as a so called 'Member' all the trips that I have subsequently self planned, thanks to the amount of information available on the Internet and Forums have been absolutely wonderful, and we haven't been ripped off in the process .

I would recommend spending a bit of time to look at 'going alone' or even with a couple of friends as the benefits are tremendous while the 'feel good factor' and 'sense of achievement, especially after the first time is phenomenal, for which you can give yourself a good round of applause!

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