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Message posted by Bikerbill5503/9/2012 at 8:17pm
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Having toured Great Britain and Europe over the years either on my motorbike, or with my campervan , I am often appalled by the amount of rubbish left by fellow campers. For instance, a few years ago, myself and my brother took his two young children to a nice quiet idyllic wild camping spot on the shores of Loch Lomond that I have used for years.  However, on arrival the place was littered with all sorts of rubbish you could imagine, for example, discarded camp tables and chairs that had been on a bonfire!!.  How these people can imagine that steel frames can burn in a fire is beyond me 17

Also, some black refuse bags were full, though I suppose putting their rubbish in a bin bag is a step forward, now they need to learn to take their rubbish home.  And  bags that had been torn apart by wild animals looking for scraps of food, left the contents strewn all over the place, soiled nappies etc.  I will not mention the amount of both dog and human waste that was lying about...17

As a result of these uneducated morons, now wild camping on the East side of the loch is now banned, spoiling an otherwise excellent area to take kids camping.


Message posted by robert6703/9/2012 at 10:47pm
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Gives us all a bad name!

Message posted by markh104/9/2012 at 12:36pm
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They have moved from Loch Lomond and can be found north of Callander now!

Message posted by millermicm04/9/2012 at 3:38pm
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They are sadly representative of our society. Have a look along the verges of any major road - especially after the grass has been cut.

Message posted by Jana04/9/2012 at 3:42pm
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We always tidy up after ourselves.  In Northern Ireland in Portrush car park we ended up picking up other peoples rubbish before we were branded as throwing tea bags out (I only drink coffee) 

Just wish I had opened the back door on the nosey parker trying to see whether we were setting up camp for the night (no we were booked on a site).


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Message posted by ratcatcher04/9/2012 at 8:07pm
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Its not only us lowly motorhomers either!
I travel 19 miles to work on country roads at 6 am every morning. I used to have to avoid just the poor old road kill but now it's KFC boxes, mcdonalds litter, newspapers, kebabs, coke bottles ect.   in fact nearly everything that will fit through a car window

I can well remember being young, but I can't remember being an animal

Message posted by AUSTINS05/9/2012 at 7:29am
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I would like to add that, just as 'JANA' has said.....WE should lead by example, pick it up if you see it, "Yours or Not",  bag it ,and place it in the bin. Best done within sight of the offender. You are so right RATCATCHER it isn't just motorhomers/campers. However, I have seen children eating on the hoof, who find they have wrappers to dispose of, and they hand them to a parent, for it then to be promptly dropped on the floor! I say nothing when I see folk drop stuff....just make sure I do a 360 degree circle around it , in the view of the offender...offer 'that look' in their direction....and pick it up. Accuse nobody of anything ....just lead by example please. It could save the planet...but certainly an arguement.

Message posted by pepe6305/9/2012 at 9:33am
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We "do" quite a few of the,supposedly,more "environmentally aware" music festivals throughout the year..and it makes you want to cry(or SCREAM!)when you see how much  "stuff"(cr*p!) is still dumped by people!(..plastic "glasses" and half eaten plates of food just left where they fell...slightly damaged camping kit,just dumped in the campsites..etc ).

..and these are the people who like to shout about how they're in the likes of Greenpeace etc ..and who show off how they've bought "Save the Planet " or/and "End Poverty" bangles etc    

Having said that,we were at Beautiful Days down at Escot park a couple of weekends back..and we saw security make some teenagers clear up the mess that they'd left around their tent.. 

(..that's the teenagers' mess..NOT securities..)

 


Message posted by Geetee08/9/2012 at 2:17pm
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The best one I have ever seen was in St Helier, a lady sweeping and tidy the front of her house, busy time of day and a traffic build up, a couple of cars in front of us someone in a drop top emptied the contents of the ashtray in the kerb, said lady saw it, picked up dustpan and brush, swept it up and promptly put tipped it into the car. Just deserts!

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Message posted by Bikerbill5508/9/2012 at 5:35pm
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I have done the same GeeTee, litter louts grind my gears as it were.  As for leading by example! well that does not work I'm afraid, for instance, myself & my son went to our local KFC, as I was returning from the rubbish bin, the two young Ned's (Chav's) parked next to us dumped their litter out the window, this of course annoyed me, so I promptly approached them and asked them politely to put their rubblish in the bin that was only 10 feet away.  I was met with a torrent of abuse and threatening behaviour from these morons.  They must have thought this old bloke would be scared, soooo wrong..

As I was picking up their rubbish, they continued with the abuse etc then I dumped their rubbish on to the passengers lap soiling his new tracksuit 17. By this time my son (both of us are 6 feet tall) was standing at the drivers door just in case.  Anyway, we got a round of applause as the two cretins sped off.17


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Message posted by Bikerbill5508/9/2012 at 5:46pm
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I hear what your saying Austins regarding leading by example, but my take on this is that litter louts would develop the attitude of 'somebody else will pick it up' I hate to see litter when I'm out hillwalking or whatever and if I see somebody drop litter, I will pick it up then approach the offender and politely tell them that they dropped something.  The look of surprise on their faces is priceless 17 

Message posted by Andy-M12/9/2012 at 6:47pm
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Exactly - why can't the lazy bast**ds pick the rubish up after themselves. I find it terrible and always ensure the pitch is free from anything before pulling away. I wish more people where that way inclined. Cigarette ends is another blight on the landscape

Message posted by bordercaz12/9/2012 at 6:58pm
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One day I chased a dog walker up the road with a bag full of his dog's poo which he (the dog) had deposited outside my house.

The man insisted it wasn't his dog that had left it, even when I explained that my daughter (who was outside washing the car) had watched the dog do it - no other dogs were about at the time, but he still insisted it wasn't his dog's poo!

I made him take it 'cos I knew it was his. I haven't seen him let his dog perform outside my house again - maybe he does it further up the road.

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Message posted by Bikerbill5512/9/2012 at 8:58pm
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You should have followed him home then posted it through his letterbox.

Message posted by EJCFORD13/9/2012 at 10:48pm
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On our way to visit a friend in Darmstadt Germany we stopped at Trier to visit the Roman ruins. While waiting our turn for a tour guide we observed about a hundred German school children also waiting. Most were eating something but all took their paper scraps to a bin. They left before us but we noticed that there was not a piece of anything left lying on the ground. We commented that would not be the case back home.

We have camper friends who get annoyed when I complain about our litter louts. I think most people here have got so used to it they don't even notice it. I'm in my late 70's and know it's not something new, we've been an untidy lot for years. In the fifties in Germany  a soldiers wife said to me, "some of our people here let us down badly." It was true, new housing estates built for military families were made scruffy by some people allowed to get away with it.

It's a pity that we 'Brits' who are mostly kind and caring as shown recently at the Olympics, do not show the same care and pride for our country.

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Not a rubbish left by campers post but rubbish left by people on the beach post! OH and I were In Turkey and a young couple next to us were drinking on the beach. They packed up and left, leaving 4 empty lager cans under their sunbed. OH collected it up and put it in the bin.

I loved the karma that happened many days later.........

Whilst queing at check in to go home, said young couple were in front of us. They were stressing as their luggage was too heavy and they were trying to move their clothes and her huge amount of cosmetics around to get under weight. Anyway they got slapped with a large excess luggage bill.

We, in return had an apology from the check in lady for having to wait plus extra leg room seats for no extra charge.  aaaaaggghhhhh...bliss and so glad the karma gods were smiling at us!!



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