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Message posted by wango22/9/2012 at 9:54pm
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hi to all,got a whale fitting to get water in to the tank works ok,but is there other way of topping up with out the whale,on an elddis180auto,got caughtout with no taps to fit my hose to, to top up,thanks for you time & help.wango

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Message posted by AUSTINS22/9/2012 at 10:54pm
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Wango, Oh my goodness, not another company using them. You have no choice I am afraid...fill up before pitching. Other than that its pay for a fully serviced pitch. Why are folk doing this...I just cant help you...Its either tear the whole lot out, or carry a water container as caravaners do...and then use the small external 12v pump. But then where do you store the container.Or dont use much water for washing etc ). We never use our tank water for drinking,( use 5 litre water carrier to make the tea and coffee from. Its not a step forward, had I known what it entailed when we bought ours...it would have come out before the van turned its wheels. THE WIFE may get a Christmas present she never knew she wanted in our case!

Message posted by wango23/9/2012 at 9:16am
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hi Austins,i allso use 5lts water for making hot/cold drinks,but its a pain in the "A" when you run out of water,thanks for your time ,wango,

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Message posted by harleyjohn23/9/2012 at 9:00pm
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I use a plastic watering can to top our tank up.

 

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Message posted by AUSTINS23/9/2012 at 9:49pm
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Anyone with a whale/truma device cannot top up in this way...UNFORTUNATELY. The filler is designed ( well to be honest cobbled together!....and believe me I am being polite) for the use of a sevice pitch...that comes with the/an extra cost of course. The hole into which the water goes ...you could not put your little finger into. Post on here a few months back lasted for weeks and weeks. It is a backward step. Why have a water tank on board and be forced to carry a 25 litre water carrier inside the van. Its beyond me. But I understand your advice offer as fortunately, you, Wango, and I, are surely of sound mind. Seems Auto Sleeper, and now Elddis, have picked up some cheap fittings. Can be no other reason that I can think of.1717

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Message posted by magnolia24/9/2012 at 6:06am
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We have a 5ltr water carrier that we use for coffee and tea while on the journey then fill up on site before pitching. Use a watering can to top up the main tank daily as we go. Didn't run out last time we were out so not a problem.

Message posted by atkinbrown24/9/2012 at 8:59am
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We are the same as magnolia. We carry a 5 litre water bottle for tea/coffee and cooking. We use a 10 litre watering can and usually two of those in the tank keep us going for 2-3 days. We never drink the water from the tank even thought we put sterilising tablets in.

Message posted by pepe6324/9/2012 at 9:16am
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Quote: Originally posted by AUSTINS on 23/9/2012
Anyone with a whale/truma device cannot top up in this way...UNFORTUNATELY. The filler is designed ( well to be honest cobbled together!....and believe me I am being polite)...

So it wasn't just a case of "getting used to it" then.. 

..and I assume it isn't just a case of swapping this filler for a  "normal" filler point then?...

If it isn't,and you can't live with it as it is(..it seems a bl**dy stupid idea to me),what would be involved in fitting an additional,conventional, filler point..?

You haven't been satisfied with it from the start,so I'd be pesterin' AS...

..and let's face it these Mhs aren't cheap...So you SHOULD be satisfied with it..

(..if fact, I just searched "Whale filler points",to see just what they looked like and your previous thread is top of the search page! )


Message posted by Andy-M24/9/2012 at 10:45am
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The trouble is that in most cases the MH is designed by someone who does not use them, (you can also tell that by how easy -NOT - other things are to access)
Is it not possible to rip the whole thing out and put a normal water inlet on.

Message posted by Nethernut24/9/2012 at 5:00pm
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Each to their own - we have the whale fitting, fill up at taps whenever possible. Carry a 20 litre (or so) container to top up with if necessary using the small pump which came with the system. OH prefers this, no hassle, no wasted water as the pump stops once the tank is full. We prefer this to our old van when we had to carry an awkward shaped watering can!!!

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Message posted by wango24/9/2012 at 8:40pm
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hi to all,i would like to change the whale if pos! have any one do it?,thanks for your help & time,wango.

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Message posted by pepe6324/9/2012 at 8:57pm
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Wango..

..what's the  access the tank and filler hose like from inside the van?..can you see where it passes through the wall of the van?(probably beneath the settee or wardrobe base)..Can you get to it enough to "work" with it  or is it tucked away behind the boiler? 

If you can get to it okay and it looks "doable",it may be worth having a chat with someone like these people...

http://www.caktanks.com/CAK_Water_Tanks.htm

..if it's "doable",these folk would have the required "bits"...

(..even if it did mean,putting in an additional filler point...) 


Message posted by Jana24/9/2012 at 9:12pm
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Hi Wango
Anyone who doesn't have this system doesn't understand the problems.
We have been saddled with this too. Our answer is if we don't fill up at home is to pitch near to a tap then use the small pump and a 10 litre bottle (easier to carry 10 ltr than 25 and we don't have room for the big one)
We put the hook up in we take the kettle and carry the water while the kettle is boiling and we are sorting out we carry 5 or 6 containers across.

While we still don't like it we are managing to live with it by adjusting.

So if you see us traipsing back and forward on site you know know why.

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If you need photos I will try and show or post links to items.
We need to have the pump turned on for it to work though.

Message posted by pepe6324/9/2012 at 9:24pm
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..So does this system "suck" it into the tank,using the onboard pump then?

Just going off what folk are saying,I can't say that I see the advantages...


Message posted by Jana24/9/2012 at 9:52pm
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Yes Pepe it sucks it into the tank. More like a caravan system really. First time it took us 45 minutes at the water point (and we had practised at home)
As I say we are adapting and find the 10 litre way better for us as we tend to put the kettle on and a pizza in while we are filling up so wasting less time than sitting at the water point.


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