Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Contact Us

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  Motorhomes and Campervans
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: GASBANK KEVLAR SLIM BOTTLES. Post Reply Post New Topic
25/5/2024 at 3:26pm
 Location: Worcestershire
 Outfit: Swift Voyager 680 FB
View KENNYKAMPA's Profile View Profile   Reply to KENNYKAMPA Reply   Quote KENNYKAMPA Quote  
Joined: 07/4/2015

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   4

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Bought two of these new Kevlar Slim GASBANK Gas bottles and had them filled with LPG to recommended first fill level, they were a perfect size for my Motorhome, I collected them in my car but before I had got halfway home the car was filled with gas fumes. Upon returning to the dealer to have one of the bottles checked for leaks as the valves were shut tightly, it was found to be leaking from the large nut flange that screwed into the bottle, thinking this was fluke occurrence the dealer filled another bottle but found that that one was leaking, he then tried another five bottles and everyone was found to be leaking, so that was six out of seven that were faulty.
So if anyone is thinking of buying these new bottles beware as they could cause a serious problem if they were installed in motorhome or caravan.
Had full refund in the end.


via mobile 25/5/2024 at 4:03pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View blueexpo97's Profile View Profile   Reply to blueexpo97 Reply   Quote blueexpo97 Quote  
Joined: 07/2/2009

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   9812

Site Reviews Total: 24
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 1  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 2
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Good job you weren’t avin a fag or you could have ended up at the ISS

-------------
XVI yes?

As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.


Campervan and Motorhome Insurance - Special Discount for UKCampsite.co.uk members
Caravan Guard Special Discount for UKCampsite.co.uk members on Campervan and Motorhome Insurance. Get 5 star rated cover and big savings - for a quote simply click Online Quotation

25/5/2024 at 5:02pm
 Location: London
 Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
View Monty15's Profile View Profile   Reply to Monty15 Reply   Quote Monty15 Quote  
Joined: 17/9/2015

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   2298

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 6
Site Nights 2018: 0

That's rather alarming!

Gasbank is a Polish company, but the cylinders look remarkably similar to Safefill cylinders, so may expect a common manufacturer. Neither Gasbank nor Safefill are likely to be the actual cylinder manufacturer.

I've been using Flogas Gaslight cylinders of a similar construction for a while now, and not had, nor heard of any similar problems, nor have I heard of issues with Safefill cylinders. BP did the Gaslight cylinders for many years before Flogas took over, so the technology is very well proven.

Presumably a batch QA problem in this case rather than an inherent type problem, but that said, the slimline cylinders are I believe quite new to the market!

It does rather highlight a concern I have about transporting cylinders in a car. I do it, when getting refills, and when tent camping, I don't have much choice, but acutely aware that cylinders mounted in leisure vehicles are fitted in lockers with drop out vents, so leaking gas can escape (hopefully!) safely, but in a car you can get a dangerous build up of gas, as no where for it to disperse! The other thing is, most gas lockers are deliberately devoid of any ignition sources, but a car is full of them, such as door switches for interior lights etc, sensor switches for seatbelt buckles and seat occupancy etc, in fact just about every electrically connected device! I reassure myself that incidents are all but unheard of, but it niggles in the back of my mind a little too much!

Lucky you spotted the leak early, and the dealer was vigilant enough to check other stock!


26/5/2024 at 11:16am
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
 Outfit: MWB VW Crafter PVC
View dk168's Profile View Profile   Reply to dk168 Reply   Quote dk168 Quote  
Joined: 19/6/2009

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   9577
Tent Reviews:   6

Site Reviews Total: 56
Site Reviews 2024: 9  
Site Reviews 2023: 9  
Site Reviews 2022: 8  
Site Reviews 2021: 9  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 45
Site Nights 2023: 47
Site Nights 2022: 46
Site Nights 2021: 34
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

The more I read about issues with LPG, be it hardware or supply related, the more I am pleased to have opted out of carrying and using LPG in my van!

DK

-------------
* Apple The Campervan - A Van For Work, Rest And Play! *
- 2025 - inc. FR & DE
- 2024 - 10/56 inc. FR & NL
- 2023 - 48 inc. FR
- 2022 - 49
- 2021 - 34
* Ex-tenter & solo female camper *
* Treat life events like a dog: If you can't eat it, play with it, or hump it, p1$$ on it and walk away! *


16/7/2024 at 8:41am
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View blueexpo97's Profile View Profile   Reply to blueexpo97 Reply   Quote blueexpo97 Quote  
Joined: 07/2/2009

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   9812

Site Reviews Total: 24
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 1  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 2
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

I know off topic, but there's a reason.

Can anyone tell me if a MH only has a locker for one gas bottle is it permitted to store a second in the garage? Tethered in some shape or form.

-------------
XVI yes?

As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.


Advertisement



16/7/2024 at 11:22am
 Location: London
 Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
View Monty15's Profile View Profile   Reply to Monty15 Reply   Quote Monty15 Quote  
Joined: 17/9/2015

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   2298

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 6
Site Nights 2018: 0

Permitted - arguably YES, on account of no one is checking, or dictating on transport method beyond it must be upright (Cylinder supplier instruction, and that is to ensure any leakage from the valve is gaseous not liquid - you REALLY don't want to be around a liquid LPG leak - BIG 'boom' when it goes up!). Laws/regulations exist for transporting of LPG by businesses, but not it would seem for private individuals, although Ferries, Chunnel, AND some inland road tunnels have restrictions! Aimed mostly at businesses, but useful info perhaps: https://www.adamsgas.co.uk/2020/06/08/how-to-safely-transport-gas/

Wise - potentially not, but not so different from a cylinder transported in a car boot!

Problem is that LPG is heavier than air, any leakage will 'flow' to the lowest accessible point and accumulate there (that may be your habitable space living area!), it will also build up and displace air (from the floor upwards) if it can't escape, so both a fire/explosion and suffocation risk in extreme circumstances.

All purpose built gas lockers have drop out vents in the lowest part to the outside atmosphere, they are also sealed from habitable areas to stop any leakage entering them, and not to be overlooked, they usually have no ignition sources such as electrical devices (lights etc.) that in the case of a leak could ignite it! The garage area fails (as does a car boot!) on all those points!

In a case of fire/explosion, I wouldn't want to be the one trying to get an insurance company to cover the loss/damage! I'd check for any SPECIFIC clauses about transport of LPG on your insurance policy!

Would you be alone in doing so, absolutely not. When tent camping, we've carried cylinders in car boots and vans, simply because no alternative way of transporting - but been a little paranoid about any whiff of gas! Friends with MHs going abroad have had a UK cylinder in gas locker, and a Continental one in garage, they swap them over once abroad.

If you want a safety backup, you can get gas alarms that will alert you to a gas leak.


via mobile 16/7/2024 at 11:49am
 Location: Milton Keynes
 Outfit: 2023Archway Woodford
View birdman101's Profile View Profile   Reply to birdman101 Reply   Quote birdman101 Quote  
Joined: 30/8/2011

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   2656

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

If you carry a bottle in the garage compartment I would put a drop out in floor directly below and buy a fixing strap for the sidewall. And don't forget a Gas sticker on outside door to show it is inside.

-------------
2023 Swift Archway Woodford, MK3 Kuga ST Line X 190 ps AWD Auto
Now 52 years Caravanning completed.


via mobile 16/7/2024 at 8:10pm
 Location: Ayrshire
 Outfit: Auto-Sleeper MHs
View Fiona W's Profile View Profile   Reply to Fiona W Reply   Quote Fiona W Quote  
Joined: 10/4/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   5088
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 232
Site Reviews 2024: 16 
Site Reviews 2023: 8  
Site Reviews 2022: 12 
Site Reviews 2021: 10 
Site Reviews 2020: 4  
Site Reviews 2019: 9  
Site Reviews 2018: 18 
Site Nights 2024: 34
Site Nights 2023: 25
Site Nights 2022: 32
Site Nights 2021: 25
Site Nights 2020: 20
Site Nights 2019: 28
Site Nights 2018: 30

Quote: Originally posted by birdman101 on 16/7/2024
If you carry a bottle in the garage compartment I would put a drop out in floor directly below and buy a fixing strap for the sidewall. And don't forget a Gas sticker on outside door to show it is inside.



Our previous MH had the external cupboard with vent(s) and 2 blue (old fashioned now - Calor?) gas cylinders, both strapped in place. And, yes, the external sticker as required. Noticed a smell of gas only once, when the pipe had split.
Current MH has an underslung LPG cylinder (like many do now) which we fill at Morrisons, £8 lasts all year because we mostly use the electric hob for cooking & rarely go off grid. It’s to get replaced at a certain age, not old enough yet.

-------------
2024 = 18 sites / 38 nights. 2023 = 9/23. 2022 = 13/35. 2021 = 11/29. 2020 = 4/20. 2019 = 13/35. 2018 = 20/33. 2017 = 10/22. 2016 = 19/33. 2015 = 15 sites / 27 nights. Didn't count 1976 to 2014.


17/7/2024 at 9:14am
 Location: 
 Outfit: 
View blueexpo97's Profile View Profile   Reply to blueexpo97 Reply   Quote blueexpo97 Quote  
Joined: 07/2/2009

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   9812

Site Reviews Total: 24
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 1  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 2
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Monty, birdman thanks very much for your informative replies.

Post last edited on 17/07/2024 11:00:47

-------------
XVI yes?

As well is two words!
How does a sage know everything about everything? or does he? or does he just think he does?
Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Motorhomes and Campervans - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...














4512 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement



Advertisement



Advertisement