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Message posted by Lynm on 13/10/2017 at 12:49pm
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We moved into a new dormer bugalow exactly 2 months ago.It's 12 years old and we had a proper Home Buyers survey for which it got Condition 1 for everything, i.e excellent condition. We have had a total disaster. In a nutshell it turns out there has been water leaking under the two downstairs bathrooms for years which has rotted the floor. We have to have the both rooms ripped out and the floor taken down to the concrete base. After that we will have to have dehumidifiers in for 21 days and then the bathrooms will have to be rebuilt. There is a possibility that the damp may have spread under the floor in the hall and the downstairs bedroom which means they will also have to have the floors ripped out but that won't be known until the bathrooms have been done. As we have only just discovered this the engineer/assessor has been out today so now the wheel grind to get quotes and insurance involved. The insurance look as if they will cover it all but we are also looking at suing the surveyor as the engineer/assessor and plumbers don't understand as if he had used a damp meter as he was supposed to then he would have found the damp. Gutted as you can imagine. On top of that our lovely 3 year old Sallyvan has had her service and a crack has been found in the front panel. Feeling a little beleaguered...BUT we'll have two new bathrooms when it is done so it's just time and inconvenience much less than a lot of people go through.

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Had you had a full survey prior to purchase?

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So awful, I hope you get some sort of recompense from them

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You should sue, but itís not easy to sue any professional. Full structural surveys arenít cheap and it sounds as if he didnít do a proper job. Good luck.

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What do you consider as a 'proper' Homebuyers report?
These are generally non-intrusive. They do not look under carpets, floor boards or behind wall panels, so only obvious defects would be reported.

A full building survey may have been needed to detect the leak.


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Message posted by dimbles on 14/10/2017 at 8:50am
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Although very disconcerting at the time, things can sometimes appear to be a lot worse than they are, new lower floor joists and boards are not that expensive and are usually relatively easy to replace,
I would get on with it and fix it up rather than run round in circles looking for someone to blame. Its far from being a total disaster.

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We had a basic survey done and eventually established they had used google street view to assess the house was ok.

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Goodness, what a mess, Iím so sorry. As you say, worse things can happen. BUT you have every right to be gutted and stressed. I think I would also like to know how this was missed? Definitely worth making inquiries about that. However, if the insurance will cover it, maybe you donít need the stress of suing the structural engineer who did the survey.
Itís very stressful and absolutely not what you were expecting. I really hope this gets sorted for you ASAP. X

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Several years ago, I changed job and was relocating to another town. We sold our house and found one to buy after seeing it on a cold wet day. We put an offer in that was accepted and paid for a survey to be done, the survey came back perfect. A week or two later, we went back to the house to measure up for curtains and saw some structural cracks around a window at the back of the house, it looked like whoever had fitted replacement windows had missed with a fledge hammer when removing the old windows. I mentioned the survey to the vendor's wife who said that coincidentally, she works in a building society in town so knows all the surveyors and that she knows the surveyor very well who did the survey on her house for us. The next day, I phoned their estate agent and pulled out of the purchase. I took it up with my mortgage company who with the estate agent thought I was being unreasonable. My argument being that nobody would get a fair survey from a local surveyor surveying that house. In my opinion, the people involved in the whole process of selling houses make those in the used car trade appear to be honourable gentlemen!

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The are various types of survey costing different amounts. Home buyers report is almost the most basic & is non intrusive. It's just visual so would not have been expected to pick up the faults you describe. This will be in the t&c's.

To find the faults you would have needed the more costly Building survey which does go under the surface.

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I recently sold my Mum's house, the vendors surveyor was a full 5 minutes at the property (covering inside and out) to undertake the homebuyers report. Money for old rope me thinks!

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Unless you have a proper building survey then you might as well just check the property visually yourself. A homebuyer's report will tell you no more than you can see with your own eyes.

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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 14/10/2017
The are various types of survey costing different amounts. Home buyers report is almost the most basic & is non intrusive. It's just visual so would not have been expected to pick up the faults you describe. This will be in the t&c's.

To find the faults you would have needed the more costly Building survey which does go under the surface.



Agreed!
Not having had a mortgage on the last 2 houses I haven't needed a survey of any kind, but from experience have found that paying a local builder some "beer money" and walking around the property with him has given me a far more effective and reasonable report.

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Or go to extremes. Find a structural engineer- and marry him. The way I did.

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Quote: Originally posted by borntoshop on 15/10/2017
Or go to extremes. Find a structural engineer- and marry him. The way I did.



That's a bit drastic

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Quote: Originally posted by SGThomas on 15/10/2017
Quote: Originally posted by borntoshop on 15/10/2017
Or go to extremes. Find a structural engineer- and marry him. The way I did.



That's a bit drastic



Well, itís been 30 years and weíve moved house a few times, so Iíve probably had my moneyís worth!

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