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Message posted by jsparkes20114809/12/2019 at 9:07pm
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My wife has bought me an apple tree, arrived by post today. It is about 5ft tall and has dry roots, no soil or pot.It came in a box about 6ft X 6in X 6in.
Im not able to plant it yet, can i just leave it outside or in the garage for a week or two until i can prepare the site to plant it?

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I've just read a piece by Chris Bowers (tree suppliers?) which seems very comprehensive.
They say, keep tree cool but frost free until planted. Plant whilst dormant, within a week or so. Soak roots for a few hours before planting, but no longer than that.

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Get it out of the packaging and give it a soak in water. You really need to plant it asap but if you can't then, after a drink, put it in damp soil and protect it from frost. Two weeks is way too long to leave it out of the ground proper. The hole needs to be big enough to accommodate the rootball and mix the existing soil with compost. Don't forget your new tree will need staking but remember to put one of those buffer thingies on the strap to stop rubbing the trunk. Heel tree in well and keep well watered over first year in dry spells. I don't suppose you have marauding livestock like deer where you are so maybe you'll escape the hassle of protection!!

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Heel it in at the very least, to keep the roots covered up so they don't dry out completely. I don't like the idea of it being left in the garage 'unclothed'. Before you do anything, though, I suggest you take photos of it in the condition in which it arrived. Then if it doesn't thrive you might have some comeback on the seller.
ps What kind of apple is it? Just curious.

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Thanks for all that, our house was built in 1906 in an orchard . One of the smaller trees was blown down 6 weeks ago. This is a replacement, I have been hoping the “dead tree “ up a bit at a time.
Thanks I will soak the roots and try to get it in the ground within a week.

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Could you not put it into a bucket filled with compost, cut the bottom off the box and keep it around the tree for support, water the compost and keep it frost free in the garage until ready to plant.

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How to keep bare root trees before planting

If for any reason you are unable to plant immediately you can keep bare root trees and plants in one of the following ways depending on how long you need to keep them for. If it is a matter of a few days you can just leave the package in a cold but frost free place such as an unheated garage or shed. If it is for a longer period the best option is to heel-in the trees. To heel-in, dig a trench ideally in a well drained position with light friable soil. A shaded position is best as trees would maintain dormancy for longer and would also be better protected from ground frost. Place the roots of the trees into the trench keeping the trees tied up as a bundle as packed. Cover the roots well with soil. Cut the ties holding the bundle together. Loosen and shake the roots to ensure the soil get all around the roots. If your soil is too wet or heavy you can use peat, compost or sand to cover the roots. Use straw or garden compost mulching to cover the soil as it will help to prevent frost from penetrating. If you have a rabbit problem you should ensure that the trees are protected while heeled in.

If you are unable to heel-in (for example when the ground is frozen) you would need to keep the trees in “cold storage”. Unpack the trees and check that the roots, which would be in a polythene bag, are moist. If the roots look dry, dip them in a bucket of cold water for a few minutes and put them back into the polythene bag and tie the top of the bag. Leave the trees in a cold but frost free place. Mulch with straw or garden compost to protect the roots from frost. While we would not advise keeping trees in this kind of improvised “cold storage” for longer than necessary, bare root trees can be kept this way for quite a long time as long as you ensure that the roots are kept moist and are protected from frost. But you should always regard this as an emergency option only. For longer term storage it is always best to heel-in. You can also if necessary heel-in the trees in a corner of a cold shed or barn using compost or sand. You should not under any circumstances stand the trees in water for any extended length of time.

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An interesting thread and a coincidence because I am presently preparing a large border for planting some shrubs in the Spring and thought about a miniature apple tree but didn't know when the best time was to plant one.

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Message posted by Hedgehugger10/12/2019 at 2:16pm
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I think we should all be planting more trees, wherever appropriate, if we're able - but 'the right tree in the right place', as the Tree Council saying goes.

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Thanks all, i dug a hole in a corner of the garden and “heeled it in”
It is going to replace an old tree which was blown over, i assume that when I have cleared away the old tree in a few weeks, then I just dig it up and re plant it in my chosen position?

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The heeling in advice is sound. Cold drying winds are not good for bare roots. On planting contracts, the very least we used to do was cover the roots in hessian sacking overnight. Otherwise, we'd dig a trench for the bare root plants.
I have one concern. Apple (Malus) trees are in the Rosaceae family, like roses & hawthorn. This Rosaceae family is subject to something called "replant disease". Go online to the RHS website (or google generally) to check, because I think you'll want to be away from the old tree site, if that's possible. Or else your new apple tree won't thrive. It's not something I'm an expert in, but we were taught that it's difficult to re-establish a gappy hawthorn hedge with more hawthorn. Or to replant an old rose bed successfully.
What variety were you given? Just curious....

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Quote: Originally posted by Hedgehugger on 10/12/2019
I think we should all be planting more trees, wherever appropriate, if we're able - but 'the right tree in the right place', as the Tree Council saying goes.



I agree however when we moved into our property there were several trees in the rear garden which is only 9x5m. Most were on the border causing damage to the fences. We had to remove all the trees as grass was dead under them. They have been replaced with bushes situated well away from the borders. The wife now has 3 avocado trees growing in large pots.

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HI ya
You may want to check out this forum i have used it in the past for all things gardening.
Sorry if not allowed

https://forum.gardenersworld.com/categories


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