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17/3/2021 at 11:29am
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Our neighbour want to replace the fence, its their fench so I wont have any cost incurred, what it will cost is the destruction of my garden on my side, as everything has started to grow.
The fence was put in with the smooth side to face them, also they have put hedging all up on their side and cannot get to the fence. its a 12 panel long 5 with gravel next to kick boards no problem, 5 of wich have Pyracantha against them, 2 separate bushes with nests in both which are now in use, Blackbirds and Dunnocks, am I being unreasonable to ask them not to replace those. The last 2 with plants which will probally be trampled.

Thanks Richie.




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It’s illegal to disturb nesting birds but no policeman is going to enforce that - my ivy-cutting neighbour sees off nesting birds every year, sadly.
If the fence panels are on their side, surely they’re just pulling off the old panels & putting the new ones up. Even replacing posts too does not need to be disruptive on your side, with care & you standing there watching, if you’re wanting to point out anywhere where particular care is needed.
They will have to access the fence from their side, even if they’ve planted a hedge - you’re not compelled to give access to your garden, but a conversation would keep good relationships going.

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Take plenty of pictures of your garden before work starts, you never know if you will need them when the work is ongoing.

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17/3/2021 at 2:07pm
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They are just replacing the panels, they destroyed our garden years ago when they replaced the wooden posts then the guy who did it didnt care that about our garden, we were not the one who was paying him, he flatten just about every plant, thats when we put in the Pyracantha its over 20 year now, they are not small plants. We have never had a what you call a good relationship, but thats another story. I will have a word about not replacing where the bushes are. They cant even see the fence panels because of their hedges.

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If they are just replacing the panels, surely that can be done better from their side as the panels are facing them. They chose to face the panels (smooth side) towards themselves, they can replace them from their own garden.

They can't enter your garden without your permission, deny that permission while the birds are nesting.

Put a value on each of your plants, let your neighbour know that he will have to pay for each plant he damages or destroys, get him to sign a contract of compensation before you are prepared to give permission for him to enter the garden. Be prepared to go to small claims court over this. He has no right to simply bulldoze your garden as he appears to have done last time.



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17/3/2021 at 4:39pm
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Is the fence definitely the boundary? If so, I'd make him wait till next back end. If hes happy to trash your garden, he isnt worth bothering with anyway.


17/3/2021 at 5:39pm
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How well do you get on with your neighbour, normally? Perhaps a constructive conversation is required.
We are getting quotes for our fencing at present and discussed with our neighbour before anybody even came to quote. Fortunately, all the work can be done from our side so no problem there. I think it would be difficult for her to make a complaint as she does use our fence to fix plants etc. I could easily say the fence is on our property so keep off or share the cost. But we do not go down that route, just try to keep friendly.


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You have to allow your neighbour reasonable access to your property to maintain theirs. It is only good etiquette that suggests the good side of the fence you erect should face your neighbour.

The whole operation works better with cooperative & considerate neighbours. If your relations with your neighbours are poor to start with then probably this will make them worse.

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18/3/2021 at 12:52pm
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If the fence panels are on the boundary that would mean that the posts are on your property. If the posts are on the boundary that means you probably have a couple of extra inches of garden? When we erected our fences we lost about 6 inches off our garden, but worth it for peace of mind.


18/3/2021 at 2:14pm
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 18/3/2021
If the fence panels are on the boundary that would mean that the posts are on your property. If the posts are on the boundary that means you probably have a couple of extra inches of garden? When we erected our fences we lost about 6 inches off our garden, but worth it for peace of mind.


The fences both sides up when we arrived the house was new, small local builder. We have replaced the fence on our right even though we didnt put it up in the beginning and the smooth side is on their side we have no problem with that.

Everyhing is ok as long as she gets her own way, the hedge or ornamental shrubs have been grown up the fence there is no way the panels can be lifted from her side smooth side to her , it would damage her perfect garden.


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It used to be a general rule that when you came out your house door the fence to the right was your responsibility the one to the left your neighbours if you had one your deeds should clarify who owns what


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I would suggest checking your title deeds. The Conveyance or Transfer to you should confirm what right of entry your neighbour has. Normally there will be right of entry for maintenance of boundary structures (ie the fence), usually requiring notice unless it is an emergency. If your neighbour has given you notice of their intention to require access to replace the fence they are probably covered and preventing them from doing so may be a breach of the easements between the properties. Of course, many deeds will also say that all rights of access and work should be undertaken causing minimal disturbance or damage, so you may be protected there if things go wrong. Likely the only people that are going to enforce any of this are a court, so amicable relations are the best way forward where possible.

As for the rule of ownership, if the title deeds are silent on the matter, only 3 people can agree/decide who owns the fence. You, your neighbour and a court.


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Quote: Originally posted by romany on 18/3/2021

It used to be a general rule that when you came out your house door the fence to the right was your responsibility the one to the left your neighbours if you had one your deeds should clarify who owns what



Gov.UK:
If you live in England or Wales, there’s usually no record of:

the exact boundary between two properties
who owns the hedge, wall, tree or fence between 2 properties.
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If it is just the fence panels being replaced then normally the old panels can be slid out of the retaining clips and the new panels slipped in. That can be done from the owners side without stepping foot into your garden. If you have chosen to grow shrubbery up your neighbours fence then that is not their problem. If removing their own panels damages your shrubbery because it is attached to their panels that is down to you I am afraid.

My advice would be to trim back any shrubbery on your side so that your neighbour can remove the panels without totally annihilating your shrubbery. If you do that, your shrubbery will grow back again fairly quickly at this time of year and peace will reign for the life of the new panels.

It is a case of helping each other out rather than creating a dispute as you will benefit from the nice new fencing as well.


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Just looked at deeds, according to them I own both fences left and right, as well as the fence at the bottom of the garden.

When we arrived the neighbours on both sides had fenced off their gardens, about 15 years ago we went 1/2 on having fence replaced on the right, the left hand side have always said that it was their fence. Now the fence in my view only needs a few tops replacing, there is no way I am going to replace a fence that does not need it. If they want to waste money let them. But I will give access but not to walk on the garden.

Richie


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I shouldn't have thought they would want to pull fance panels from behind mature pyrocantha. It's very sturdy and spiky. Experienced fencers will accept that they don't always get the easiest option and work around it.



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