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via mobile 02/11/2024 at 8:33am
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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 02/11/2024
I have never seen a supermarket car park with a walkway as Colin describes. We always park nose in and so does everyone else.



Our local Morrisons has a covered walkway, it divides the parking area in two as they have different layouts. The wider spaces for people needing them are located along it, so wheelchairs & prams aren’t going down the car park access with the vehicles.

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02/11/2024 at 10:39am
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 02/11/2024
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 01/11/2024
Far more cars get damaged by other drivers who have to reverse out, as it is much more tricky if the car park is very cramped. We try to avoid parking between two cars that have driven in for that very reason.



The same would apply if reversing into a bay, so do not understand your logic.



The logic is very simple. The front wheels do the steering so once you have the front of the car between two other vehicles your ability to manoeuvre is severely restricted. Reverse in and the front is the last thing to enter and the first part to get out. Many years of driving buses and coaches taught me that. In many bus and coach depots if you didn't reverse in you would never be able to park all the vehicles inside overnight.

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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Bonce on 02/11/2024
I have never seen a supermarket car park with a walkway as Colin describes. We always park nose in and so does everyone else.



Aldi in both Hertford and Hoddesdon are like it. Obviously not all bays in either place are like it, but if the ones that are are free, they are the ones we always go for. They often are as they are not nearest the doors.

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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 02/11/2024
The logic is very simple. The front wheels do the steering so once you have the front of the car between two other vehicles your ability to manoeuvre is severely restricted. Reverse in and the front is the last thing to enter and the first part to get out. Many years of driving buses and coaches taught me that. In many bus and coach depots if you didn't reverse in you would never be able to park all the vehicles inside overnight.



Sorry your logic does not work for me as I have never had an issue reversing out of any parking bay and I regard myself as a reasonable driving, but then I have only got 60 years driving skills under my belt including an advanced driving course that I passed with flying colours. Seems all these years I have been doing it wrong? LOL!


02/11/2024 at 2:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 02/11/2024
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 02/11/2024
The logic is very simple. The front wheels do the steering so once you have the front of the car between two other vehicles your ability to manoeuvre is severely restricted. Reverse in and the front is the last thing to enter and the first part to get out. Many years of driving buses and coaches taught me that. In many bus and coach depots if you didn't reverse in you would never be able to park all the vehicles inside overnight.



Sorry your logic does not work for me as I have never had an issue reversing out of any parking bay and I regard myself as a reasonable driving, but then I have only got 60 years driving skills under my belt including an advanced driving course that I passed with flying colours. Seems all these years I have been doing it wrong? LOL!



Try driving a 40' coach forwards between 2 other parked similar vehicles. If it can be done at all in a very confined space, it will require a large number of shunts. Reverse it in and it is a piece of cake, do it properly and you can do it in one go. You have not done anything wrong, you have simply done it the hard way. You drastically reduce your vehicle's manoeuvrability once the wheels that do the steering have entered the confined space between two other vehicles. It is quite logical really.

I have never done an advanced car driving course as such, but I did hold a PSV (PCV) licence for 50 years. I was trained on a bus with no power steering, which does tend to get you to make things as easy for yourself as possible.



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I always reverse in: Army brat, taught to minimise manoeuvring the vehicle with a cold engine. Plus something about being parked up as a convoy - you all drive off at the same time in the same direction without the risk of reversing into another vehicle (which is how a friend pranged their car in a supermarket car park). We also had to park the office pool car “ready to go quickly”, wherever it was for risk assessment reasons - rural car park when someone is in pursuit with a rifle (yes, that happened to a colleague).
Same result if you drive thorough a parking space to the next one, you’ll be pointing out, ready to go. You can see better out of the front windscreen looking forward when leaving, rather than looking over your shoulder / wing mirrors / reversing camera.
But it’s not a big deal, do whatever you’re comfortable with.

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05/11/2024 at 2:40pm
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On balance, I'd rather reverse into a space than out of it. It's a little easier to manoeuvre, and visibility is better when leaving. If I need access to the tailgate I'll drive in, and if I can I'll pull through two spaces and avoid the need to reverse at all!

I also always go to the quietest bit of the car park and walk a bit further. Far less stressful, and good for me as well.

I do get annoyed when the car behind stays so close that I can't reverse in, and when people park so badly that they effectively use two, or even 3 spaces. Why???

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My rant..I drive a small car my choice, I try to park away from the shop doors, to then find that someone parks up next to me.
I recall one occasion when I parked up in good time to do the supermarket shopping ,so spent time looking up emails etc to see a car park next to me, then hear the clunk as they exit their vehicle and hit my passenger door .the elderly woman did not apologise ,or even aware that I was in the car.
I look at the small ding and paint mark she had left whilst I considered my options.
At the trolley storage are she was collecting a trolley I said. She needed to take more care has she had just banged my door. She denied it and stated she could not have as she was always very careful. When I pointed out that I had been in the car ,and observed the multitude of panels on her car that has scraps, bumps. She replied that they were all done in her own garage ,... I walked away ,thinking .. better complete my shopping before she gets back on the road again....


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I'm with Colin on the reversing in.
The only (usual) place I drive in forward is at work, as the bays are at 45 degrees, not 90 degrees, so driving in is "less tight", and vision upon exit is fine. (It also helps with additional room to open the driver's door, as my Off-side front corner is now tight up to steel railings, and my door swings past the next door front left corner!)

Next time you're wandering from the parked car to the store entrance, check out how many forward parking cars are central and parallel to the bay markings! It won't be many!

Many moons ago, we sat in our parked car in McD's, and sat and watched a car drive into a space, scrape their front corner down the side of the car next door, scrape it again when they immediately drove back out, and buggered off!
Sadly, dash cams and mobile phones weren't common back then. We did take the reg number and passed it on to the damaged car owner, but obviously we had no proof.
(I do concede that it is likely that someone, somewhere, has witnessed a collision by a car reversing in!)

Quite a number of (business) sites we visit nowadays insist on reverse parking only, by order of their H&S Gestapo. For one, peripheral vision "can be" severely restricted when reversing out from between cars (or larger) either side. When you arrive at the parking bay, you should already be aware of what is all around you, making reversing in an all round simpler task.

I'd also add that reversing onto your driveway is more common for very good reason... unless you have one of those swanky semi-circle driveways with separate in and out gates!

I was gonna add that lorries always reverse up to loading docks... but then realised the lorry loading doors are at the back, so forget that one!

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In our local supermarket if you reverse in there is no room to get behind the car to unload your trolley.
I reverse in to a parking space from choice but that isn't always an option.
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 08/11/2024
In our local supermarket if you reverse in there is no room to get behind the car to unload your trolley.
I reverse in to a parking space from choice but that isn't always an option.
Saxo1



Yep and that is why many cars end up with trolley scrapes down the side of them due to some uncaring people. If there is only one bay empty on a supermarket car park and the car next to it has reversed in, we will go elsewhere as we paid a lot of hard earned money for our car!


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It's one of the reasons we shop where we do when we are doing our monthly stock-up. Both Hoddesdon and Hertford Aldis have a row of parking bays with a walkway behind them and we always park there if we can. It means we don't have to stand where there are cars moving about when we load our shopping into the back of the car. At the Hoddesdon Aldi you take you life in your hands if you try to load up at the back of your car if you have driven in forwards, and it is very difficult to reverse out. It is very cramped and some of the drivers that go there are crazy. If you don't get run over loading your shopping, someone will probably drive into you as you try to reverse out!

When we visit other supermarkets we are only usually getting a few things we can't get in Aldi, and we don't then take the trolley to the car.


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