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Message posted by Francais on 31/12/2017 at 11:44am
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Elon Musk did comment that the Tesla Model "3" would be available with a tow hitch option.

Maybe it's just a case of waiting for type approval, and for those who already have a Model "3" you would think there would be a retro fit solution when the time comes, albiet third party.

It does seem odd that now the configurator is open to those with reservations, that the tow hitch is not listed as an option.

To be fair there is no OEM tow hitch option for the Model "S" although there is a third party tow hitch solution, but if the car is not even type approved for towing, that must leave insurance complications if a tow hitch is fitted.

The Model "X" does have a OEM tow hitch option, and those with deep pockets are now going for the Model "X" instead of the Model "3".

I believe the Model "3" will become type approved for towing, as it would be a set back if not.

Many folk seem to focus on the price of EV's stating them as expensive, but for someone like me who spends over £300 per month on Diesel it's a no brainer.

Of course it's not my money that I am spending, but I am sure there is a bean counter in our H.O. that has already done the math.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=didO-DHpnAE

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If only that link would work, blueexpo97

Lot's of rumours floating around regards the Model "3" towing, some say this may only become an option when the "Dual Motor" AWD version is introduced, which will also have "Air Suspention".

Although that notion has come about from the spec on the Model "X".

I don't think so, as I don't see why "Air Suspention" is strictly nessacery for towing.

Also the "S" tows just fine with single rear motor, so I think the available torque from the single rear motor Model "3" will be well up to towing.

We will just have to wait and see.

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Much as I like the idea of an electric car in principle, as it is cleaner running although not cleaner over all if you include production and disposal issues, I still can't see it becoming much more than a small niche-market for the foreseeable future. There are just too many snags, and most of them have nothing to do with the individual vehicle.

Maybe other manufacturers are not so much "slow to catch on" as realising that this is not the right path. Tesla may just be going off at a tangent with the electric vehicle. There is always the possibility in my mind that the future of cars may not be battery-electric at all, it could just as easily be hydrogen powered or even nuclear. Then there is always the other possibility that the days of personal transport as we know it may be numbered.

Whatever the future of transport holds, I think this will be something for my grandchildren, not for me. After all, if my own car is anything to go by, there will still be cars produced today running around on the streets in 2030. And possibly towing caravans, who knows.

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I see things differently Colin, you only have to look at sales of new cars in the UK for the last year, against the previous year.

Fossil car sales were down, especialy for diesel, and guess what, EV's and Hybrids were up.

The Tesla Model "3" arrives into the UK early 2019.

And this will be when the game changing starts to happen.

There are already enough Tesla SuperChargers in place, to get you to anywhere in the UK, and by 2020, the number of Tesla SuperCharger locations will no doubt have doubled.

Due to the small landmass of the UK, it is probably one of the most ideal country's to have EV's.

And of course we have some of the highest prices for Diesel/Petrol in the whole of Europe if not the World.

I see a fossil car now, and I don't care what make it is, I just see it as a piece of outdated junk, technology has moved on and EV's are the way forward.

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Thing is with that piece of outdated junk you can jump in it and drive anywhere you like . All over Western Europe and beyond knowing you will be able to refuel and continue your journey. EV ‘s might be ok in towns but try staying in remote areas in the north of Scotland and all of a sudden it’s a whole diffrent ball game.

Electric vehicles aren’t new they’ve been around for over 40 years, as a child I remember the co-op had a fleet of electric milk floats. For me electric vehicles are far too limiting even a range of 300 miles doesn’t do it for me that’s only half the range of my outdated piece of junk. Not exactly good progress over 40 years. Maybe the full electric thing is outdated and manufactures need to look elsewhere rather than trying to flog a dead horse.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 31/12/2017
There are already enough Tesla SuperChargers in place, to get you to anywhere in the UK, and by 2020, the number of Tesla SuperCharger locations will no doubt have doubled.



Really??
I wouldn't call 4 of them even adequate!!


https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-b&dcr=0&q=tesla+supercharging+point........

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I think if you look back into the history, you will find that Electric Cars were around before fossil cars even, exeption being steam driven vehicles that is.

It's just that fossil car's are the gift that keeps giving for oil companies and fossil engine replacement parts makers, not to mention all that tax the government rakes in from fuel duty tax.

Why would 300 miles not do it for you, that's around 6 hours driving on UK roads.

The average driver will do around 2 hours before stopping for a break, in fact the fossil car that I drive even flashes up a warning for me to take a coffee stop after around 2 hours.

I think you are missing the point llan, SuperChargers are mostly used for distance journey's, there are endless Tesla Destination charging locations around, not to mention home charging.

Trust me range anxiety is now a thing off the past, if you are driving a Tesla.


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You keep on about home charging, but that is probably only available to 30% of the population.

What are the rest going to do?

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Lol at people saying there is no electricity in Scotland.

My experience is the opposite. When I take my EV camping I find most sites have electricity to charge the car. Hardly any have an on site petrol station.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 31/12/2017


Trust me range anxiety is now a thing off the past, if you are driving a Tesla.


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Not sure what you mean, I get 800 +, anxiety free, miles from our family car.   It ain’t a Tesla.

I would, however, be anxious about the reliability and build quality according to the guy who posts reviews on YouTube. THREE breakdowns, and a run out of power which needed a low loader to get it back to a fuel station where a gallon of diesel in a plastic container would have done it.

Just don’t cut it for me.

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I don't understand why folk have an issue with not being able to charge your EV at home.

In fact it makes you wonder how drivers of fossil cars have copped all these years, never having had the ability to fuel up at home!

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 31/12/2017
I don't understand why folk have an issue with not being able to charge your EV at home.

In fact it makes you wonder how drivers of fossil cars have copped all these years, never having had the ability to fuel up at home!



????What on earth does that mean? That makes absolutely no sense, probably because I am lower down the food chain. Please explain.

So not being able to charge an EV at home is not an issue. Mmmmm

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Some folk are on another planet.

I make regular journeys over the 300 miles been quoted. And by the way the quoted mileage figures are under test conditions. The reality will be far less. Fir example, lights on, heater on, carrying passengers, tools and equipment that you need to carry in your boot that you need for work.

For some a car is more than just something to take you to the supermarket and back.

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Mmm now let me think about a Tesla for my next car and it's suitability.

I have a petrol station 200 yards away from my house and another 3 between where I live and where I work In order to fill up the Hybrid (non plug in) that I own now.

I have downloaded an looked at the Tesla charger app and there is ONE in the North East around 20 miles away from where I live and it's on the motorway at a sevice station so would take a few more miles to get back on the right side of the road again... no where at home to charge it as I live in a terrace house so could be parked anywhere.

For many like myself it is a case of both the purchase cost and the charging infrastructure would have to be right before it would be anywhere near practical.... until that time I will enjoy the Lexus.

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No problem ST1100, the Tesla infrastructure for the UK will be in place by 2020, and hopefully by then some agreement will have been made between all the EV car manufacturers, so that any make model a EV can fast charge from any fast charger, be it Tesla, ChadeMo or CCS.

This is early days as yet, but mark my word, the fossil car will become a thing of the past, sooner than you think.


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