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Message posted by Mike3003 on 21/6/2018 at 1:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 21/6/2018
Oh, so it's a no brainer then.



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Well just an update, electrek have reported a Tesla Model 3 towing a good size, non braked box trailer in and around Nevada California.

Photos of the Model 3 towing a U-Haul trailer look promising.

The car being used has manufacturer number plates, so is most likley to be a test mule from the Tesla factory at Freemont.

There are already third party tow hitches available for the Model 3 in the U.S., although until towing type approval is confirmed, fitting such an item would no doubt infringe warranty insurance etc.

I guess we are getting close to finding out about the towing capacity for the Model 3, more a case not if, but when.

Although I do find it odd that towing spec for the Model 3 was not available from the get go, the car has been in production for over a year now, and the factory is churning out 5000+ Model 3's per week.

RHD models of the Model 3 are set to arrive mid 2019, with some 8000 already on reservation for the UK, for those lucky folk.

Placing a reservation today for a UK Model 3 will give an expected delivery some time in 2020!


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Well just an update, electrek have reported a Tesla Model 3 towing a good size, non braked box trailer in and around Nevada California.

I guess we are getting close to finding out about the towing capacity for the Model 3, more a case not if, but when.

No more than 750kg then? Useful.....

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Yep, but for a braked trailer you can expect 1000kg or maybe 1,500kg for the Model 3.

Although I guess the range could be reduced from 310 miles to 150 miles for towing somthing like a box trailer.

All depends on which model is used, there will be a 220 mile and 310 mile model to choose from.

For us tent campers who tow a small trailer, there will be little loss in overall range, I would guess 10% at worse.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 12/8/2018

RHD models of the Model 3 are set to arrive mid 2019, with some 8000 already on reservation for the UK, for those lucky folk.

Placing a reservation today for a UK Model 3 will give an expected delivery some time in 2020!




Why are these people lucky?

Now if I was due to pick up my top of the range Range Rover.................Thatís lucky. 😀😀😀

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Well Mike, those lucky folk will be getting a car that is to change the face of motoring history in the UK.

Fossil cars like the Range Rover will be museum pieces in the not to distant future.

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Yep, but for a braked trailer you can expect 1000kg or maybe 1,500kg for the Model 3.

So still pretty useless.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 12/8/2018
Well Mike, those lucky folk will be getting a car that is to change the face of motoring history in the UK.

Fossil cars like the Range Rover will be museum pieces in the not to distant future.



What is the not to distant future, 5/10/20/30/60 years? We all know EVs or similar are the future, but they have a lot of evolution to go to become a vehicle of any real use at a sensible price, certainly compared to the modern diesel.

Only 8000 vehicles ordered does not sound like a game changer to me, thatís worrying for Tesla surely.

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So where was it Nevada or California?

Fremont.

And I see your mate(bromance)Elon appears to be in a bit of financial soapy.

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Nevada if memory serves blueexpo97, Tesla are churning out 5000+ Model 3's per week, and they are sold before they even come of the production line, on that basis I don't think Elon has any financial worries for Tesla.

Mike, Starting price for the Model 3 will be well under £30k, and then £4k gov incentive to come of that, plenty of fossil cars around that cost more than that, and remember it cost's next to nowt to run a BEV.
for someone doing lots of miles the Model 3 will be a no brainer.

Phil, only a fraction of the car's on UK roads tow a caravan, but plenty more tow small trailers, in fact more and more folk are having tow bars fitted for the sole purpose to use a bike carrier.

The only BEV that can tow a proper size caravan at the moment is the Tesla Model X, not quite the car of the people, but it shows that it can be done.

As a company car driver, I would spend around £5k per year less on fuel if driving the Model 3, and be personally £1,500 better off per year on not having to pay BIK tax.

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"I don't think Elon has any financial worries for Tesla".

You obviously don't read the Financial Times.

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If only 8000 have been ordered in the UK, itís hardly a no brainier for the vast majority of the UK motoring public is it.

Around 83,000 Ford Fiestaís alone are sold every year in the UK.

It is all very well quoting BIK, company cars etc, but very few people are lucky enough to have that luxury. I had a company car or 30 years, but a Tesla would have been of one use whatsoever.

Also, as Blueexpo has said, it ainít all sweetness and roses at Tesla......Is it.

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The fiesta is the uk's best selling car,
Tesla selling 8000 modeel 3 cars is more than Jeep ,Alfa Romeo , Subaru & Ssangyong who only sold 3590 cars last year

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There may be many new cars costing over £30k but there are a massive number that cost far less.

Surely the vast majority of cars sold are second hand anyway? How much will a second hand EV be worth when it's 10 years old? And if the batteries are knackered??

At one time few cars lasted 10 years without the floors rusting out of them, and engines lasted 50k miles if you were lucky. Take a look around now and you will see numerous 15+ year old cars, rust free, and still giving excellent service. I am currently looking for a 10 year old vehicle to replace my 18 year old one with 170k on the clock, and unless it develops a major problem for which replacement parts aren't available, I'll probably sell my existing car to someone who will get a few more years out of it. There are plenty of cars on the road now that are older than mine.

Ok, so EVs may cost far less to run now than a fossil-fuelled one, but for how long? Once the tax revenue from petrol and diesel drops off to a certain point, the government will look for other ways, which will probably mean that they will either slap huge taxes on EVs, or they will put up the cost of electricity.

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So my EV will be worth nothing when it's 10 years old? Or will there be a shortage of cheap second hand EV's? It can't be both surely?

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Quote: Originally posted by Extremebiker0 on 13/8/2018
So my EV will be worth nothing when it's 10 years old? Or will there be a shortage of cheap second hand EV's? It can't be both surely?



The main thing is............nobody knows! What will it be worth? How many sets of batteries will it have got through, and will someone want to buy it if the batteries are shot? We will only really know the answers to those questions in about 20 years time, when battery-powered cars have changed hands a few times and been driven by a multitude of different types of drivers. Just like with fossil-fuelled cars today.

It's all very well talking about new cars, and those that can afford them, but people like me and probably thousands if not millions of others don't buy cars until they are 10 years old these days. It used to be 5 years old when cars only lasted 10 at most. What will a 10 year old EV be like? There simply aren't enough of them around to know.

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