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Message posted by Francais on 06/10/2018 at 2:01pm
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Plenty of Tesla Model "S" and "X" here in the Northwest, the Model "3" is not due to arrive into the UK untill some time in 2019.
More importantly the Tesla SuperCharger network is ramping up in the UK, noticed 8 stalls at Birchwood service's Liverpool on the M62 and another 16 stalls at Heartshead Moor services M62 Leeds.

Tesla are definitely getting ready to rumble.

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The British public do not seem so convinced, judging by 2018 UK figures.

Nissan Leaf + Tesla S and X = 4600 (approx)

Ford Fiesta = 67189
VW Golf = 49692
Nissan Qashqai = 34910
Ford Focus = 34045

Total = 185,836

Their may be an EV revolution coming, but the British motoring public are not embracing quite yet. ICE most definitely rules at present, and will do for some time to come.

I suspect the Tesla 3 will hardly make a scratch in the above figures.

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Confused!

Why are some of the motoring press touting a 40k price tag for the Tesla 3, when we eventually see it. That figure has the current UK Govt grant included.

How much is this car going to cost, because no one seems to know exactly.

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The Tesla 3 is also likely to attract a £310 a year road tax!😳

That cannot be right surely, that is more than my pick up truck!

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New cars over £40K do have a higher rate of tax for a few years, I think it came in last year or this year. Maybe hybrids /electric are included?
BEVs still use the road so why should they be free!
Seen the charging stalls at services, but they are the right size for a car, so if you have a trailer you have a problem! Bigger ones needed!



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Patience Mike, all will be revealed next year.

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Do you work for Tesla Francais?

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From Our UK Gov site!
Vehicles with a list price of more than £40,000
You have to pay an extra £310 a year if you have a car or motorhome with a ‘list price’ (the published price before any discounts) of more than £40,000.
You only have to pay this rate for 5 years (from the second time the vehicle is taxed).
Check the list price with your dealer so you know how much vehicle tax you’ll have to pay.
Fuel type
Single 12 month payment
Single 12 month payment by Direct Debit
Total of 12 monthly payments by Direct Debit
Single 6 month payment
Single 6 month payment by Direct Debit
Petrol or diesel
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£450
£472.50
£247.50
£236.25
Electric
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£310
£325.50
£170.50
£162.75
Alternative
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£440
£462
£242
£231
No escape! I can see manufacturers pricing some models below the threshold to attract sales!

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 06/10/2018
Patience Mike, all will be revealed next year.



You obviously know something no one else in the UK knows.

I must confess, I have absolutely no intention, desire, need or want to purchase a Tesla. But it would be nice to know what they are going to cost........Wouldn’t it!

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Like I said, tesla are and always will be a niche. Yes they’ve probably helped the car industry focus on ev but know they have who needs Tesla? A few rich people who want something different. For the rest of us it will be an electrified version of their favourite car.

Tesla are most famous for making false promises, the model 3 was due this year not 2019, that was another failed promise.

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Tesla churn out over over 5000 Model 3's each and every week, and production could peak at 10k Model 3's per week, the bottle neck at the moment which is keeping production at 5k+ Model 3's per week is production of the battery packs over at the Gigafactory in Sparks Nevada.

Each battery pack requires 4,416 Lithium ion 2170 form cells, as they are only currently producing the 310 mile long range pack, of course the 220 mile short range pack will require less cells when that goes into production, later this year.

Mike, BMW have already shown concerns that they are loosing sales of the BMW 3 fossil car to Tesla in the USA and Canada, and they know the same will happen in Europe, unles BMW can come up with something better than there own i3 BEV, times are a changing mark my words!.

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Times may be a changing..........But how much are they going to cost, because from what I can see, the extended mileage variant is likely £45k plus.

Hardly a car for the people.

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Yep Mike I agree, but the Tesla 220 mile short range Model 3, will be a whole different ball of wax, and should come in at around £25k after incentives, if that turns out to be the case, it will be a winner.

We won't really get any idea of the end price for the UK version until late next year at the earliest I am guessing.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 07/10/2018
Yep Mike I agree, but the Tesla 220 mile short range Model 3, will be a whole different ball of wax, and should come in at around £25k after incentives, if that turns out to be the case, it will be a winner.

We won't really get any idea of the end price for the UK version until late next year at the earliest I am guessing.



So if we don’t know the end price until late next year, when can we expect them to arrive? Is it 2020 now, originally it was 2018!

The expected cost of the 220 is still anticipated to be in the region of £40K according to certain motoring press. How can Tesla expect customers to have faith, or even enthusiasm, for a product they have no idea how much is going to cost.

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Well the 220 mile short range version of the Tesla Model 3 should be rolling of the US production line before the end of this year, that should at least give us an idea, what the cost will be for the UK version.

Although I agree it will probably be early 2020 before that model hits the UK, the more expensive 310 mile model, should arrive in the UK sometime next year.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 07/10/2018
Well the 220 mile short range version of the Tesla Model 3 should be rolling of the US production line before the end of this year, that should at least give us an idea, what the cost will be for the UK version.

Although I agree it will probably be early 2020 before that model hits the UK, the more expensive 310 mile model, should arrive in the UK sometime next year.



By which time ev’s will be widely available from the established brands. The numbers of Tesla’s being made quoted above is minuscule in the automotive world.


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