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Message posted by Francais on 19/10/2018 at 10:26pm
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Fair comment ST1100, Lexus or Toyota, still a Steel tin can rot box, and can't hold a candle to the aluminium body of all the Tesla's.

Also the Tesla Model 3 drive train is good for a million miles, and that's official.

As for reliability, both the Tesla Model X and Model S were almost bespoke in the early days, but that's all changed now.

Not only are the Tesla's the safest cars on the planet, but they are the best cars the world has ever seen.

The fossil cars of today, are on there way out, and BEV's are the future, Hyrodrogen is a none event, in fact almost a joke.

As for reliability I once owned a Land Rover Series 3, it was a fun vehicle, but a money pit on wheels!.
Not to mention 10mpg from the 2.25 lt Petrol engine.

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Francais ...that reliability of only 50% for the Tesla is not just for the older ones it is the new ones too ...
... the Rangie I had was an aluminium body too .. I would much rather have my Lexus than any aluminium body vehicle if the reliability was as crap as the Tesla is proving to be.

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The bigger Range Rovers and I believe new Discoveries have aluminium bodies as do quite a few Jaguars,and other high end cars including Bentley, who use steel,aluminium and composites!
Land Rover from S1 onwards used steel chassis with aluminium outer panels due to initial shortage of steel when first LR made,but plenty of Aluminium from scrap aircraft!
If hydrogen is a non event,why are major manufacturers such as Honda and Hyundai producing them?
Hydrogen fuelled Hondas are quite common in California because of emission laws.
A hydrogen powered truck ( which Hyundai are producing for Switzerland) makes sense as BEV version would lose a large chunk of its payload to batteries!

Porsche are developing an electric sports car to rival Tesla! That will be expensive but given their heritage, superbly engineered and reliable!

Most well off americans seem to like European cars, big market for Mercedes JLR etc!
Their best selling vehicle is Ford F150 pickup!
Pretty cheap,practical but big! I guess they could make a BEV one with pickup bed full of batteries!

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Just watched an episode of Chicago PD and the big bad drug dealer turned up in a Tesla!
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Sorry 664DaveS, there will be nothing that can touch the new Tesla Roadstar for a while to come.

The Tesla Model 3 is doing fine, and they have not even started to produce the short range 210 mile version yet.

Tesla even predict that the demand for the Model Y will be even greater.

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I take it your monthly copy of I Tesla/Photocopiers/Satellite Monthly has just dropped through the door.

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Interesting article on difference between claimed and real mileage per charge for EVs came from What Car but also om Mail online.Cost per charge quoted too.
Bit like mpg claims!
Worth a look if considering one.
Best were Jaguar I Pace and Hyundai,Tesla not too bad either.


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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 01/11/2018
Sorry 664DaveS, there will be nothing that can touch the new Tesla Roadstar for a while to come.




......and a bargain at around £325,000 too! I can see our roads flooded with them tbh. 😀👍

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Yep Mike3003, but the Tesla Roadster it's not a car for us mere mortals, but a car for those who already buy super cars.

And your right, it is a bargain at a fraction of the price of a Bugatti or Lamborghini, and is a smackdown (Elon's words) to all those type of fossil super cars around at the moment.

The Tesla Model 3 of course will start to flood our roads when it arrives, especially the bargain basement short range (220 miles) model, that model will see production start next month in the U.S., so it could be a year or two before it arrives on UK shores.

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"flood our roads" you've gotta laugh.


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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 04/11/2018

The Tesla Model 3 of course will start to flood our roads when it arrives, especially the bargain basement short range (220 miles) model, that model will see production start next month in the U.S., so it could be a year or two before it arrives on UK shores.



I'm beginning to wonder whether you are being paid by Tesla to spout this rubbish.


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No, it's all part of the big bromance with Elton.

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Look out for queues of broken down Teslas and motorway services being full as they wait to get on charge point!
Of course being billed for parking by the service bandits if you exceed 2 hours!

If I were to buy a BEV (unlikely),it would be from big company like Toyota or Hyundai!

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Yep 664DaveS both the Kia Niro and Hyundai Cona BEV, will probably dominate the BEV market in Western Europe, with about the same range as the Short range Tesla Model 3 and cheaper to boot.

But neither the Kia or Hyundai are in the same class as the a Tesla when it comes to tech, especially battery and motor tech, which are the most important components of any BEV.

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Well my tow bar arrived today, just waiting a couple more years for the car to fix it too ...

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Don't worry checkley1973, it will be well worth the wait, did you order it from Torklift in the U.S. they do tow bars for all the Tesla's and Nissan Prius etc!

It's quite amazing that some U.S. folk fit tow bars to there Tesla Model 3 and Model S, surely it must have insurance and warranty ramifications, if you fit such an item to a vehicle that is not yet type approved.

And I also wonder what they do about the electrics, as you probably can't get hold of a VSK (canbus) kit.

I think the two onboard computers on the Tesla would go into meltdown, if you let loose with a bunch of scotch locks and by pass kit on the rear light cluster!


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