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Message posted by Francais on 16/11/2018 at 3:00pm
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Yes, but what if they reduce the duty on petrol, to encourage folk to hand there diesel car into the local scrap yard.

Petrol could easily come down to 75p lt and diesel upto £1.50lt, in fact I think we are on the way already.

Already the gap between petrol and diesel can be as much as 20p.

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Francais too many things run on diesel, if that happened the country would grind to a halt as all the haulage companies would park up & rightfully protest.

Diesel cars have already plummeted in value

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Some Truck manufacturers already have prototypes fuelled by LPG,Biogas,battery powered and Hydrogen cells.
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Some cruise ships are gas turbine,so use kerosene,been on two! Lower emissions.
The new Princess ship planned will run on compressed natural gas, as do some buses.

I believe new technology will further clean up diesel emissions.
Fossil fuels must run out so alternative technology is the way forward.

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Fossil fuels will definitely run out someday, but nobody seems to really know when. I can remember when they were saying that the oil would run out in the 1990s, but here we are over 20 years later than that and still running on oil.

As for the difference in price between petrol and diesel, I can remember when diesel was much cheaper than petrol, but that was when nobody wanted a diesel car because they were noisy, smelly, and had all the performance of a road-roller. They also belched out clouds of black smoke, and that was regarded as normal. Then came the revolution is diesel technology, diesel cars became desirable, and the price of diesel went up!

Diesel has cost more than petrol ever since except for a small period fairly recently, but it didn't last for long. Average difference in price in this area is around 4p, and I haven't really seen it much more than that anywhere I have been.

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One can only assume that Lithium will not run out.

Anyone naive enough to think that BEVs are the cleaner, or more environmentally friendly alternative to fossil fuel, do some research into the huge environmental tragedies that are occurring mining Lithium in the name of progress.

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Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 16/11/2018
One can only assume that Lithium will not run out.

Anyone naive enough to think that BEVs are the cleaner, or more environmentally friendly alternative to fossil fuel, do some research into the huge environmental tragedies that are occurring mining Lithium in the name of progress.

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I have Mike. It pays to look at the bigger picture somtimes.


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It can't be viewed in isolation,the environmental and human tragedies aren't confined just to Lithium mining,it has to be viewed alongside the environmental pollution caused by the mining/extraction of fossil fuels being burnt burnt by the ICE.
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 16/11/2018
It can't be viewed in isolation,the environmental and human tragedies aren't confined just to Lithium mining,it has to be viewed alongside the environmental pollution caused by the mining/extraction of fossil fuels being burnt burnt by the ICE.
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It appears it isn't not obvious to a lot of posters!
When posters highlight the possible pollution from EVs and then pontificate about the power and size of the gas guzzlers that they personally drive.
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I think the point here is that whatever you choose to power your vehicle with, there is no such thing as zero impact on the environment. The only way to get around without having any significant impact is to walk.

Even cycling has some impact, as the bike has to be made, which involves steel rubber, and other materials, and at the end of its useful life or that of its component parts, it has to be disposed of.

If we really need vehicles, which we clearly do given our chosen lifestyle, then we need to look at all aspects of vehicle production, disposal, and powering, and choose the least worst option. The only other option is to completely change our lifestyle.

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Good news to those looking for a £80k EV to tow their caravan, 25% of Model 3 customers have cancelled after finding out they cannot buy the EV for $35k as orignally quoted.

When they quote $35k they were taking into account a $7.5k EV discount scheme.

At current production levels though, thats still about 18 months of pre-order cars in the US alone.

Have they even built a single RHD version yet?

Be interesting to see what type approval route they take, an EU wide one or one for each country.
That could affect the towing restrictions.



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These 2 figures must not exceed 3500kg. And the Caravans gross laden weight must not exceed the cars UNLADEN weight.

Unless the manufacturer has set a lower limit.

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If you want a decent BEV the Jaguar I Pace is available made in EU not USA!
Still a lot of money!

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The Tesla Model 3 is on display at selected Tesla stores throughout the UK during December and January, to find out dates check the Tesla website.

I guess this will be the LHD model, and may not even support the charging port for European models, but least it will give you the feel of the car inside etc.

I may just pop into a Tesla store this week, and have a look.

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Audi announced an electric SUV with a 280 odd mile range.
Wonder if that will tow? I expect it will be available in rhd as quite a big marke
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Passed a Tesla on the back of a transporter on the way back from Aberystwyth this afternoon.
There is a distinct derth of recharging points there!


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