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Message posted by Francais11/12/2018 at 7:13pm
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Simples, blueexpo97, like in the U.S. all those folk that like to buy the BMW 3 series will be queuing up to buy the Tesla Model 3, mostly because the Tesla is faster.

Then there are all the folk that covet the S and the X, but find those models beyond there budget.

Range anxiety is not an issue in a tiny country like the UK, when a full charge will get you 220 miles, or 310 miles for the long range model.

Supply for the demand, as ever will be the issue for Tesla, the U.K. model RHD, probably will not appear until around May, June time, and you will probably only start to notice them in significant numbers on the road around early 2020!.

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 11/12/2018
not really a fair comparison to a Tesla then.
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No, not at all. It can tow up to 2.5 tons, carry a ton in the back, go off road and do around 450 miles before a top up.

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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 11/12/2018
"the Tesla Model 3 will see a big take take up here in the UK"

And you know this how?




Doesn't everyone have £60k spare for their next car?

Even if you need to stop mid journey to recharge it, where a diesel car could complete the journey there and back on a single tankful.



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Max tow weight = Cars gross laden weight + Caravans gross laden weight.

These 2 figures must not exceed 3500kg. And the Caravans gross laden weight must not exceed the cars UNLADEN weight.

Unless the manufacturer has set a lower limit.

Message posted by Francais11/12/2018 at 11:19pm
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What's the point of owning a diesel anymore, petrol from ASDA is currently 114p whilst diesel is at 129p.

Our fleet of company cars has just moved from diesel to petrol, probably just a short term thing until we go BEV.

I appreciate that for those that tow caravans and plant etc, that diesel is probably the only solution, but oh boy it's going to cost.

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Hahaha hahaha........ Anyone that can afford a Tesla can afford a 5 star hotel room & skip hire so doesn't need to tow anything......

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Well you could well be right r001, as most 5 Star hotels do seem to have dedicated Tesla Destination charge points in the car park.

Also many Tesla owners are well healed enough, to have a fossil 4x4 on standby for when needed.

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Doesn't everyone have £60k spare for their next car?

How many times have you been on campsites were you see x5's merc mL's range rovers both sport and normal ? Even discoverys mount up in cost. it's suprising just how much new cars cost, you can paddle your way through 45k on a kia sorrento.

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Credit and company cars.... Aren't they wonderful things?.......

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Yes but these cars will pull a large caravan for miles without stopping every few miles to refuel.No electric car will do that.
That is what this thread is about.
As for Francais,is he on commission?

Message posted by bessie50012/12/2018 at 11:41am
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Yes but these cars will pull a large caravan for miles without stopping every few miles to refuel.No electric car will do that.
That is what this thread is about.
As for Francais,is he on commission?

no the originalthread was about a new electric car that has potential to tow, written by a guy that tows a small camping trailer.

But i do think Francais is on commision

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Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 10/12/2018
Is it a silly question to ask how much it is going to cost?



According to this weeks edition of AutoExpress it will start at just over £50K and should be available from mid 2019.As yet it has not bveen adapted for RHD.

Todays Daily Mail has a 2 page article written by someone who purches a BEV (renault)It makes interesting reading .


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Quote: I appreciate that for those that tow caravans and plant etc, that diesel is probably the only solution, but oh boy it's going to cost.



Buy a powerful enough petrol vehicle and have it converted to run on LPG at around half the cost of diesel. Problem solved and a massive saving on the cost of an electric vehicle at current purchase costs. There is a small reduction in engine power on LPG but I have run a car for 8 years on LPG, saved thousands of pounds, the first year cost of installation was paid by the saving on fuel cost alone, thereafter it was savings all the way. Modern LPG systems are absolutely trouble free and automated, so you would not know you have one until you spend half as much as everyone else at the forecourt.

Electric vehicles are already old tech... mass making batteries is unbelievably polluting given the toxic waste products used and when they are disposed of. Commercial vehicles can't possibly make international deliveries with them - ever. Trains will never be able to run on them. Jet Planes cannot take off with a billion batteries. If you live in a flat or terraced property without access to your frontage how the hell can you charge an electric car? They certainly won't be sending Virgin's space craft up in battery powered rockets....

I'm waiting until Hydrogen vehicles are affordable and garage forecourts supply the hydrogen which has to happen or the big oil companies will lose their revenue stream. I understand that the government is already discussing this with the oil companies and a big push toward hydrogen is on the way in the UK, but as ever the Germans are racing ahead of us with both hydrogen cars and trains

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/17/germany-launches-worlds-first-hydrogen-powered-train

Electric cars are just a stop-gap, I believe this is the future for motorised vehicles....

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/

Nothing controversial there then eh?



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http://commercialvehicle.in/battery-powered-trucks-set-to-be-a-reality/
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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 11/12/2018
What's the point of owning a diesel anymore, petrol from ASDA is currently 114p whilst diesel is at 129p.





I think that must be a regional thing. In my local garage diesel is currently at 132.9p and petrol is 128.9p

Even with 10p difference between the two fuels you would need to do a huge mileage to eliminate the difference in mpg. I do accept though that I have heard that the latest petrols are closer to diesels' mpg. With the older vehicles (over 5 years) that most people drive, the difference in mpg still far outweighs any difference in price between the two fuels. As an example, my last car did about 38-40mpg, whereas the petrol version did around 25mpg.

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The company I work for already has a fleet of battery powered delivery vans on our rental fleet in Paris, so battery powered commercial vehicles are already being used

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Yep just put £62 worth of petrol in the car today, petrol at ASDA Manchester was £1.147 per litre, and diesel £1.257.

That amount of fuel will just about get me 400 miles, in the 1.5lt automatic 2018 BMW 1 that I am now driving.

That's barley 70 miles further than the Model 3 with a full charge, in fact to do 400 miles in the Model 3 would cost about £10! for the electric.

When you do 30k miles per year like I do, that's a massive saving to be had.

Thanks Bessie for pointing out, that I did indeed start this post, so towing with a small baggage trailer unbraked with max gross 750kg, are my expectations for the Model 3, and I am sure it will exceed that.

The Model 3 has been seen, towing a unbraked box trailer, close to the Fremont factory, so I guess it's only a matter of time before type approval is listed.

I visited the Tesla Stockport store today, and got the grand tour of the Model 3, the car is of US spec and is probably the same one as seen at the Goodwood festival earlier this year.

Lovely red paintwork, dual motor model, so top of the range, I have got to say the styling is awesome, and no photo can do it justice, you just have to see this baby close up and personal.

Sitting inside the car, the minimalist layout gives a very futuristic feel, there is nothing out there quite like this car, not even the other Tesla's.

There was also a number of reservationist's at the store, who will be expecting to get there cars next year, new orders placed today will mean that you won't get the car until early 2020!, definitely worth the wait though.

Thankfully the finance director at the firm I work for, already drives a Tesla Model S, so getting the Model 3 for our field teams may actually happen come 2020.

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