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Message posted by Colin21 on 12/12/2018 at 6:31pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 12/12/2018
The company I work for already has a fleet of battery powered delivery vans on our rental fleet in Paris, so battery powered commercial vehicles are already being used

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Battery powered commercial vehicles were in common use in Britain in the 1950s. Our milkman had one and so did the baker. Some local delivery companies had them too, but virtually all had disappeared by the 1980s.

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There are more EV charging points in my area than LPG filling stations.and new ones are being installed regularly.
The majority of car owners in the UK are home owners and have off street parking at home,78% of car owners have access to off street parking.
LPG filling stations are in decline because the demand is falling off.
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 12/12/2018
There are more EV charging points in my area than LPG filling stations.and new ones are being installed regularly.
The majority of car owners in the UK are home owners and have off street parking at home,78% of car owners have access to off street parking.
LPG filling stations are in decline because the demand is falling off.
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What an absolute load of tosh, I have never read such rubbish......good god, what planet are you on.......78% of car owners have off street parking! You are from another planet, do you actually believe that.

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Not my figures!
Data taken from a survey conducted by a private company
commissioned to determine the need to strengthen the Electricity distribution network.
I tend to believe information that has been gathered by a reputable agency rather than the unsubstantiated rants from forum posters!
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I would be surprised if even 50% of car owners have off street parking. Witness the number of cars parked on the streets overnight in any town. Old terraced houses and flats dominate many areas. I live on an estate in a village, and I doubt whether more than 5% of the other residents have off street parking, although we are lucky in that our house was built in 1992, and does have off street parking.

As for charging points vs LPG stations, in this area I only know of one EV charging point and that is company-owned and for their own vehicles only. However I only know of one LPG filling station too, but that is for the public.

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Government Housing Statistics.
In 2010, 40% of dwellings had use of a garage, 26% had other off street
parking, 32% relied on street parking.
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 12/12/2018
Government Housing Statistics.
In 2010, 40% of dwellings had use of a garage, 26% had other off street
parking, 32% relied on street parking.
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It certainly does make me wonder where on earth they get these figures from. Or perhaps it just confirmed what I have always said about the government. Completely out of touch with reality!

I recently had occasion to visit the area of North London where I grew up, and it has hardly changed at all in the immediate area around my old house. Out of several hundred houses, mostly terraced, not one had a garage, and only a tiny handful had anywhere to get off the road. For several of the roads, think Coronation Street. Not even a front garden. There are plenty of areas not far from where I live now that are no different. On my estate there are a few houses that have their own garages, but not many. Some of the later-built ones like ours have driveways but no garages. The largest number of garages on this estate are in three rows of council lock-ups!

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It's not just the government the RAC foundation and others reach similar conclusions.
I live on what was originally a council housing estate of some 150 houses mainly built between 1947 and 1959,all of those houses had large front gardens,the majority are now privately owned and the gardens have been paved over for parking or have had garages built,even the ones still in the housing associations management.
There are 20 new housing association houses built 2 years ago and all have off street parking.
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You don't buy a Tesla to save money, £50k - £60k to save £2500 a year?

How does that compute?



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Max tow weight = Cars gross laden weight + Caravans gross laden weight.

These 2 figures must not exceed 3500kg. And the Caravans gross laden weight must not exceed the cars UNLADEN weight.

Unless the manufacturer has set a lower limit.

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No you buy one because you like them, and the only people that buy 50k motors are business or leasing companies, a very small percentage of new cars are bought by the general public

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It would be interesting to see what all the peopleís parking arrangements are that have posted on here, I donít know anyone without off road parking, my daughter bought her 1st house last year a 2 bed semi with a 3 car drive.
I can park 3 cars on the drive and I still have a garage

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I live on an old former council estate in a village, and I have off street parking for both my car and caravan, but I am definitely in a minority in this area, as my home is relatively new. In a lot of towns and cities the houses were built long before most people had cars, so parking simply wasn't a consideration as it is today.

In well-to-do areas and areas where most homes are relatively new, most homes probably do have off street parking, but there are still many areas where this doesn't apply. In less well off parts of North and East London for instance, there are still loads of streets with "Coronation Street" type terraced houses. Front door straight onto the pavement, and no front garden. Even in some areas where the old terraces have been knocked down, they were replaced by blocks of flats with very few parking spaces as most residents wouldn't have had cars when they were built.

I too would be interested to hear of others situations regarding parking.

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 12/12/2018
There are more EV charging points in my area than LPG filling stations.and new ones are being installed regularly.
The majority of car owners in the UK are home owners and have off street parking at home,78% of car owners have access to off street parking.
LPG filling stations are in decline because the demand is falling off.
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What an absolute load of tosh, I have never read such rubbish......good god, what planet are you on.......78% of car owners have off street parking! You are from another planet, do you actually believe that.



Read the stat again. 78% of homeowners have ACCESS to off street parkingt home This does not mean they HAVE off street parking. Access to does not mean it has to be at home.

If a car is parked on the street over night, but the car owner parks in a business car park during the day it meets the criteria set out in the question based on access. Our local Council insists charging points are now provided at all new commerical/business park premises to increase the accessibility figures.




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The gov figures indicate that,depending upon what type of road your house is on,app 40% of houses have a garage and app 30% have adequate parking.
The largest proportion of houses,app80%, with front plots were built between 1919 and 1980 of these app !/3rd have totally landscaped/paved the area for parking.
There are areas which don't have adequate parking but these are in the minority
These areas have, by far, the highest no of dwellings where the occupants don't own a car or van.
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Delivering local Xmas cards for a charity post service over the last few days so a good idea of parking. Majority of houses on this 80ís estate have driveways or have paved part of the front gardens but there still appear to be more cars parked on the road rather than off it. Plenty of 2 or 3 car families with only room for 1 or 2 cars off road. Also only know a couple of people who use their garages for the car. In most cases itís too small to open the doors once you get the car in.


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If you walked around my village you would see lots of vehicles parked on the road while their driveway is empty!
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