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Message posted by Mike3003 on 18/12/2018 at 10:45am
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 18/12/2018
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/09/tesla-model-3-becomes-1-best-selling-car-in-the-us/

It's there if you look hard enough!
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I have looked hard enough, may I suggest you have a harder look at the article you posted.......You will get the real picture!

If you cannot find it I will quote it for you later if you would like.

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Av of 8000 miles P/A BMW fuel cost £1240,Tesla fuel cost app £160.
More than compensates for the difference in road tax.
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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 17/12/2018
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and also because they are the safest car on the road, even more so than a Volvo can you believe.

It's not just the tech that makes the tesla safer, even in crash test's they come out tops.



Quote source please, obviously I don’t look hard enough, but I cannot find Tesla in any of the lists I have looked at.

Just interested.

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 18/12/2018
Av of 8000 miles P/A BMW fuel cost £1240,Tesla fuel cost app £160.
More than compensates for the difference in road tax.
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What about the £25k + difference in cost to buy!

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I posted that link to show that Francais wasn't making it up it was in the public domain.
The possible 25k difference can't be viewed in isolation, there are many factors which determine whether or not it represents good value for money,fuel costs,maintenance costs and residual value none of which nobody can, at this point in time, determine.
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I thought the Tesla price hadn’t been released ?

The Only 1 series that will keep up with the Tesla is the M140 and that starts at 35k for the 5 door & drinks fuel for fun
It also can’t tow anything

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/20/17882634/tesla-model-3-nhtsa-five-star-safety-rating
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 18/12/2018
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/20/17882634/tesla-model-3-nhtsa-five-star-safety-rating
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And there are numerous other cars that get a 5 star rating, so that doesn't make the Tesla "special".


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Others got the 5 star rating but the Tesla was the only one that got 5 stars in all the subcategories.
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It is pointless quoting fuel costs as nobody knows what will happen when/if BEVs become mainstream. When the government loses fuel duties, as it will if people stop using fossil-fuelled cars, they will want to get that back somehow. If loads of people switch to BEVs, I can see them getting hit with huge rises in road tax to make up for the fuel duty loss, as it would be difficult to tax electricity for vehicle use. So, we would see a tax on BEV ownership, rather than use, which is after all what road tax currently is.

When few people drove diesel cars diesel was cheap, but when diesel cars became popular, the price of diesel rocketed. While BEVs remain a small niche market, running costs are very low, but watch what happens when/if they get really popular!

Whatever happens, the motorist will always lose out, they always do.



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All homes have electricity so it can’t be increased by too much otherwise you hit the vulnerable and create more problems

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To recoup lost revenue from fuel tax then an increase in road tax would apply to ICE powered cars as well as bevs.
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Probably taxed on the cars value

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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 18/12/2018
All homes have electricity so it can’t be increased by too much otherwise you hit the vulnerable and create more problems

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Exactly, which is why I think they will go for increasing road tax on BEVs.

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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 18/12/2018
To recoup lost revenue from fuel tax then an increase in road tax would apply to ICE powered cars as well as bevs.
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Quite possibly, but I think BEVs will be hit much harder. They always hit the upcoming most popular thing, not that which is fading out. With the structure we now have it makes it much easier to hit a certain section of vehicles, unlike pre-2001 when it was simply 2 categories, under 1500cc or over 1500cc.

As I said before, whatever happens the motorist will lose. We are the government's favourite cash-cow.



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It is also suggested that road use pricing could be introduced to compensate.
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