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Message posted by blueexpo97 on 03/1/2019 at 2:37pm
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Still a no brainer then????

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Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.

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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 03/1/2019
Still a no brainer then????



Not if you half a brain.........Would not touch Tesla with a barge pole.

A personal opinion of course, be that right or wrong.

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I love their play on words and skill at avoiding the facts.


Quote: The company also said it delivered 63,150 Model 3s in the quarter


So they delivered that many cars, making you assume they built the same number of cars. Makes sense...

Except it appears they had not built that many cars, so some cars are being delivered that were build in previous months.

Its the hype that counts though, real facts must be ignored.


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Max tow weight = Cars gross laden weight + Caravans gross laden weight.

These 2 figures must not exceed 3500kg. And the Caravans gross laden weight must not exceed the cars UNLADEN weight.

Unless the manufacturer has set a lower limit.

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"Its the hype that counts though, real facts must be ignored".

Well said, and I must admit I had forgot about the large(nae extremely large)storage areas that have the built cars parked on them.

It's a game changer.


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Latest news is that Tesla Model 3 will start to ship to Europe from next month, the company handling the shipping states 3000 units each week to go from San Francisco Port, journey time is from 2 to 5 weeks for the first shipment.

There are already over a 1000 Model 3's at the San Francisco Port dockside awaiting the first shipment.

As mentioned before the Model 3's destined for Europe are equipped with a CCS Fast charging port, unlike the "S" and "X" Models which are type 2 port only so fast charging is only by Tesla SuperCharger or via can adaptor can use Chademo fast charger.

The Model 3 will be able to Fast charge from all three.

Tesla Superchargers are currently having a CCS connector added, but only for Tesla vehicles, although that is set to change, pending agreements with other EV manufacturers.

Once the shipments start arriving in Europe, that will be 3000 Model 3's arriving each week, which should soon take care of the 14,000 or so back orders for Europe.

Although it could still be over a year before the UK RHD Model 3 starts to ship.

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So it is now well into 2020! A little apart from initial estimates.........Get your deposits in guys! 😳😳. It’s a no brainer!

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Hi Mike, you just know that Tesla are going to rule the world as far as cars go, well if not Tesla then at least the makers of BEV's, in the mean time fossil car drivers can look forward to paying the £100 per day day congestion charge that is due to start this April!

On the upside that's only for London of course, but who knows the idea may catch on!

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In that case, they had better start charging farmers a congestion charge!

Those ponies, sheep and cattle are a bloody nightmare around here. 😡

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Mayor Khan ULEZ scheme is £100 a day for non compliant buses and hgv, for cars its £24 for non compliant diesel and petrol. Standards are Euro 6 diesel,4 for petrol! That starts in April. It is planned to extend it to inside N and S circular.
Google for facts Francais !
The extension is Oct 21, it will be £12.50,thats added to £11 on the existing ULEZ.So compliant should not pay.
I would not drive into central London anyway even 8n our Euro 6 car!
Difference is the existing one will be 24/7. At the moment its not.
Drivers of older motorhomes or van conversions have to be careful as they can get hit by the charge £100



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Unless it has changed very recently, classic buses are exempt. I occasionally drive 1950s and 1960s buses, and sometimes we go into London for weddings, birthdays etc. These vehicles are currently exempt, but if they suddenly come under the legislation, many companies will have to go out of business. Converting such vehicles would be prohibitively expensive, if indeed it is possible.

I never drive my own car into London, or any other big city for that matter. Public transport is usually good in cities, even if not in outlying areas. I have my bus pass which helps, and my British Rail retired staff pass, on which I can go anywhere.

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I think classic cars may be exempted too I know classic car magazines are campaigning for it.

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Thanks 664DaveS, I stand corrected.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 13/1/2019
Hi Mike, you just know that Tesla are going to rule the world as far as cars go, well if not Tesla then at least the makers of BEV's, in the mean time fossil car drivers can look forward to paying the £100 per day day congestion charge that is due to start this April!

On the upside that's only for London of course, but who knows the idea may catch on!



I await you explanation of where the electric supply is going to come from to feed all your "wonderful" cars, considering that the National Grid state that there is not enough generating capacity to cope with much more, plus the distribution companies are also stating that away from the grid much of the system needs drastic upgrading to cope.

I suspect that hydrogen power via fuel cells is going to knock you off your perch.


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I await you explanation of where the electric supply is going to come from to feed all your "wonderful" cars, considering that the National Grid state that there is not enough generating capacity to cope with much more, plus the distribution companies are also stating that away from the grid much of the system needs drastic upgrading to cope.

I suspect that hydrogen power via fuel cells is going to knock you off your perch.


I'd ask the goverment that, that's who set the task to replace cars with electric ones and that's throughout europe not just the uk.

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Colin21,cars over 40 years are exempted at the moment,I guess becausethey are not used much. A 40 year old classic on lpg could be good? Cheap fuel,no road tax on congestion charge

Bessie500 totally agree. I would put money on hydrogen fuel cell as the best way,no heavy battery packs or long wait to charge. Hyundai are putting a lot of development into them, a fuel cell SUV is available now. Apparantly Honda sell them in USA.

Hydrogen is produced from water using electricity, but can be done in off peak periods and gas stored.No dofferent to having an lpg tank.

I cannot see battery vehicles being the answer as large amounts of charging points are needed and not everyone can plug their vehicle in at home!Plus time to charge.


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664DaveS I once had a small haulage business running Transit trucks on LPG. It was brilliant! Classic cars on it could be a very viable proposition, but owners would have to see that their valves and valve seats could cope. Some can't. However, I don't think that would be as big a problem today as it was when leaded fuel was discontinued. If a classic car has been converted to run on unleaded, it should be ok on LPG.

I must admit I don't see BEVs as the solution, as there are too many problems, mainly infrastructure, for them to become really mainstream. Hydrogen power, whilst not without problems either, may be the way to go.

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