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Message posted by Mike3003 on 09/5/2019 at 8:28am
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Great news all round, impressive towing capacity, hugely reducing range and a reasonably priced tow bar set up, all that and we still donít know how much it will cost!...........Or do we?

Just cannot see whatís not to like, I just hope Tesla can cope with the huge demand when they start to flood our roads!

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Well you should be okay with your diddy little trailer then.

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Yet another reason why I will stick to my Hybrid instead Ö 2000kg towing capacity and a lot cheaper towbar.

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Having seen the few charge points on our motorway services,access looks difficult if you have a trailer due to their size.

I have seen one or two hybrids towing but their extra cost and poor fuel consumption towing puts me off. Things wll change I am sure.



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Definitely sticking to my old diesel, not that my bank balance leaves me any choice anyway.

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We thought about a small electric or hybrid as a second car but the prices are too high.
I could buy a small ecoboost petrol or diesel for much less and still have excellent economy.

At the moment we have a 1 year old Saab convertible in excellent condition its diesel and does around 40mpg plus.
Factoring in depreciation on a new or nearly new vehicle it actually costs us very little.
For towing we have our excellent 2 year old Santa Fe diesel!

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As a second car a BEV would suit me fine, as much of my journeys are either on my own or as a couple, and less than 50 miles. No good for towing my caravan though, and I can only afford one older vehicle that has to do everything.



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Well from what I can tell, the reason for the 910kg max tow capacity, is more to do with keeping the range sensible.

If you are going for the Model 3 with tow hitch, then the model to go for is the 310 mile long range version.

For those with camping trailers, range will hardly be effected and a Model 3 with a tow bar, will be a good used car buy, if you can find one that has come of a 3 year lease.




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Trouble is the long range version of the 3 is £48000 without the towbar. No Apple car play or Android auto in a £48000 car!!!
Tesla 3 owners will also have to pay tu use Tesla's supercharger network



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No chance for me then! Even £4,800 would be way too much for my budget. I don't think I've spent £48,000 on all the cars I've ever owned, and that's quite a few!



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Not strictly true amara, as you get an annual allowance of free supercharging with every Tesla around 5000 miles worth I think it is, even then supercharging is still cheap, maybe 3pence per mile or so.

Most of your BEV charging can be done even cheaper at home, or free even from some public or at work non fast chargers.

As for your pricing, it is a little suspect as the UK Tesla list does not currently offer the Long Range Rear Wheel Drive Model, the Long Range Dual Motor (348 miles) is listed at £47k.

The Standard Range Plus Rear Wheel Drive (258 miles) is listed at £38k this will be the most popular model for the UK, you can get one for delivery next month.

In 3 years time, with say 90k miles on the clock, an ex lease model will be available for between £15k to £20k maybe even less.
The drive train on the Model 3 is good for a million miles!

The battery warranty is good for 8 years, and degradation of the battery is minimal, in fact it could even be zero on the original range due to the unused reserve in the battery, which has already been shown as the 310 mile Long Range has already increased to 348 miles.

Also in three years time, a third party tow-bar solution will be available, if not before.

Not sure why they have not introduced the Long Range Rear Wheel Drive model for the UK, it is bound to come along eventually, when it does, I would say the price will be closer to £42k.

Even the Standard Range Plus would suit me, thatís around 4 hours driving before having to stop and supercharge for less than an hour to get full range back again, even if towing a small camping trailer.
Although I would rather go for the Long Range, as the price difference when buying used will be minimal.

Not only can you fast charge the Model 3 from a Tesla Supercharger, but the charge port inlet socket, is also for CCS fast charging, of which there are plenty now, come three years time and fast chargers for the Model 3 will be even more common place.

Don't worry Colin, you may have to wait until you can get a 10 year old Model 3, for your budget, going of 10 year old Telas that are out there now, the battery battery pack should still be better than 80%, even more so for the Model 3 as it uses the improved 2170 cells, not the older style 18650 cells, it could be well worth the wait.

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How long can Tesla keep going as a company? it is seeking fresh funding, has just posted a first quarter (2019)loss of $700 million and deliveries are about 30% down compared to the final quarter of 2018. In the next 18 months VW group and Mercedes will be launching their own EV sub brands based on bespoke platforms.Don't forget the Chinese have not entered the global market for EVs yet, SAIC sold 140,000 EV in China in 2018.
Tesla have done a fantastic job of making EVs more than a novelty city car but will have to face intense competion in the next few years.

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I donít think Tesla have anything to worry about, they are making the drive units for Mercedes and others.
There motors especially the ones in the M3 and soon to be Model Y, are still a mystery to all the experts in that field, as is the battery tech and Tesla will always be ahead on both.

And once the Tesla factory comes on line in China, it will take Tesla to another level.

The Model 3 starts shipping to the UK next month, and they are going to be everywhere, trust me on that.

I even find it hard to believe myself, that I started this post back in 2016, predicting that the Model 3 would be the first sensible BEV with towing capabilities, although with an official 910kg, it has been proven in the US that it can tow 2000kg with ease, although that does reduce the range more than Tesla would like you to know, a 910kg limit keeps the range more respectable.

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Why have we to trust you.

Their motors.

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Because what I predicted at the very start of this post, almost 3 years ago has now come to fruition, if only for that reason, and of course Starlink in another post.

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Nope, not swallowing it.

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