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Message posted by Mike3003 on 30/7/2019 at 10:10am
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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 29/7

Mike it really is a no brainer, the Tesla Model 3 costs just 2 pence per mile to run, whilst the Ford Ranger is going to be around 16 pence per mile to run.

For someone like me doing 30k miles per year, so the Tesla Model 3 would be around £4000 cheaper per year to run, so it would only take three years to recoup the difference in price over the Ford Ranger, after that the Tesla Model 3 would be £4000 in my pocket each year, compared to running the Ford Ranger, probably more as fossil fuel is going to rise in price, along with taxation on all fossil cars.



Francais, the Tesla cannot tow more than a garden rubbish trailer, let alone a 2 tonne horse box, the Tesla 3 has absolutely no off road capability, the Tesla 3 cannot carry much more than the monthly shop in the boot, let alone a tonne of whatever I need to throw in the back.

I live in rural Devon, Dartmoor, I cannot think of a less practical car than the Tesla 3 for the very vast majority of people who live here. So you are most welcome to your 30K miles a year, townie lifestyle, I would not swap it for anything, let alone a measly, made up, £4K a year, which is a ridiculous, fantasy figure anyway.

Horses for courses, and the Tesla is not one you will find in my stables.

Also, your fictitious figure of 4K is of absolutely no relevance to most people whatsoever. Firstly, unless an absolute need, the vast majority of people do not need to do 30K a year, or need a Pick Up. My average yearly mileage now is nearer 12K a year. 30K a year! I cannot think of anything worse, spending your life on our congested roads, simply hell on earth.

I fully agree that ICE cars days are limited, but I give the likes of the Ranger, Hilux, Navara etc a good 20 years yet. I won’t care after that, as I will, by then, be happy pootling around in an EV. But at just 61, I still have plenty of living to do, and the though of a life limiting EV fills me with absolute dread.

Just a few quid a year for a lifestyle............Peanuts!

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Could be Mike that this is what you're after.

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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 30/7/2019
Could be Mike that this is what you're after.



Now your talking, get me one of those bad boys! 👍😀

Ford lead the way again.

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Well I started this thread over 3 years ago, back then you would be more likely to spot Lord Lucan at a motorway service station than see a Tesla car.

Well yesterday I was at Oxford services on the M40, no less than five Tesla’s on charge, which included at least one of each model, and oh yes my first sighting of a Model 3 in resplendent Black, the Model 3 arrived after me, and left before I did, and I didn’t even stop for fuel.

I recon the Model 3’s charging was done in less than 20 minutes.

Great to see this BEV technology gaining traction, and the Model 3 really is stand out car, hundreds off thousands of Model 3’s have already been sold, and not a single reported battery fire from those unlucky few that have been involved in a crash.

Tesla really have the battery tech nailed, leaving other manufacturers to wonder how they have done it.

There is a bloke in Yorkshire, who has put a down to earth YouTube video of living with a Tesla Model 3 fantastic insight, he has got the car on a PCP lease or something, which makes the car even more affordable for many folk.

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Recon ?

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Seen a couple on motorways, not the 3 models.
I might consider a hybrid when the time comes to change.

The latest Toyota Rav 4 can tow 1650 kg and gets pretty good mpg. Apparantly plug in hybrid to come.
For me that would tick the boxes.
5 years 100k miles warranty.
No doubt Hyundai and Kia will do the same.


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Yep, spotted a very nice Tesla Model 3 in White at Burtonwood services on the M62 near Liverpool today, it was charging with a Model S also using one of the Type 2 only stalls.

That Supercharger station has 8 stalls and has only recently been commissioned, 4 of the 8 stalls have CCS and Mennekes Type 2 modified leads ready for the Model 3, which uses CCS only.

The Model S and X use Mennekes Modified Type 2 connectors, newer models will be coming through with both ports on the car, allowing them to use CCS none supercharger stalls.

We are kinda moving to a standard here, and that will be CCS across Europe, which will make a big difference to the convenience of fast charging.

To think with a Tesla Model 3 you can go from 10% charge to 90% charge in around 20 minutes and then you are good to go for 300 miles is a fantastic advancement in real life technology.

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Amazing.

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Around here I have only ever seen one on the roads.
Have seen two at a local car show which will probably be there again when it's on at this weekend.

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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 16/8/2019
Amazing.



I am strictly a CCS man myself, it is the way forward to my mind.

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Message posted by Francais on 16/8/2019 at 10:46am
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Yep ST1100 the Tesla Model 3’s in the Tesla showrooms are usually the LHD version for the U.S. market with Type 2 port which is not even compatible with U.K. Tesla Superchargers, although they can be charged from a regular mains socket albeit at a snails pace, the ones in the showrooms don’t have CCS, that will change when the demand slows, but for now all RHD Tesla Model 3’s are going to customers, so none available for the showrooms.

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I've only ever seen a couple on the road too. Strange really as I'm not all that far from London, and I would have thought this would have been the area to see them in.

Saw a couple of charger points the other day, and I've seen a few more in recent months, but never seen one in use, apart from a company one which was the first one I ever saw.

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The Bracknell Tesla collection point, is signing out 150 Tesla Model 3’s to customers each day at the moment.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 17/8/2019
The Bracknell Tesla collection point, is signing out 150 Tesla Model 3’s to customers each day at the moment.



And how would you know that if you didn't work for Tesla?

Frankly I find that figure implausible, unless you can prove.


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Well LlaniDavis, please don’t shoot the messenger !

I got that little gem from watching Burl Solomons youtube Video “collecting your Model 3” .

Although the number was between 100 to 150, and I am never one to let the truth get in the way of a good story.

To be fair the video gives a good insight to the process and also the volume of cars that Tesla are dealing with, and Bracknell is is just one of a number of Tesla service centres distributing the influx of new Tesla Model 3’s at this point in time.

I doubt that there is anywhere near as much activity are your local VAG, BMW, Merc, Ford, Vauxhall, Mazda, Hyundai, Kia etc service centres.

The next BEV to watch out for is the Honda e, although I fear that it’s underwhelming range of 124 (200km) miles will only appeal to city commuters and dwellers, but at £10k less than the Tesla Model 3 will see a high number of sales, albeit no towing capability whatsoever.

The range is down to the battery capacity of 35.5Kwh whilst the £37k RWD Tesla Model 3 has a 61Kwh capacity battery in the STD Range+ version giving 240 miles range.
Sadly the Long Range RWD Tesla Model 3 is not available in the U.K., although the AWD version is with 348 (74Kwh battery) miles range, but a price tag of £46k good tow car though.

What we are witnessing is history in the making.

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I live in direct commuting distance to Canary Wharf and the City of London. The area is bursting with Jaguars, BMW and Range Rovers. The true Essex lad, with his loud voice and money dealer salary, has yet to embrace the Tesla revolution.

I have yet to see one, no matter how hard I have looked.

We might be making history but have no glimpse of the future.


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