Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Contact Us

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
   Caravans and Caravanning -  Caravan Towcars and Towing Advice
Share   Tweet This!  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Tesla 3 towing?
Page:  1  ....  73  74  75  76  77  78  79  80  81  82  83  ....  85 Post Reply Post New Topic
Message posted by Francais28/3/2020 at 9:21pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 29/6/2008
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Francais
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   11716
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Heating on the Model Y is from a Heat Pump of a design that is light years ahead of the competition, Nissan have also introduced a Heat Pump and the new Leaf, all Tesla cars prior to the Y use a regular inductive heating element, which is fine, but no where as near as efficient as a Heat Pump.

In fact your next Central Heating Boiler, could well be a Heat Pump derivative, some homes already have them.

Message posted by 664DaveS via mobile 29/3/2020 at 11:07am
Outfit:  Hyundai Santa Fe -Bailey Unicorn Cadiz     Location:  Shropshire
Joined: 24/7/2007
View 664DaveS's Profile View Profile   Reply to 664DaveS Reply   Quote 664DaveS Quote  
664DaveS
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3565

Site Reviews Total: 33
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 3  
Site Reviews 2018: 4  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 20
Site Nights 2018: 41

With the pandemic and huge govt spending, I could see the moves to ban oil based fuel vehicles eyc being postponed.
Manufacturers may not have the funds to continue development.
Why they have not postponed or binned HS2 surprises me. I suspect little if any construction is taking place now.
Taxes will have to go up.

-------------
DS-There's more to life than football!!!

Message posted by Francais29/3/2020 at 5:13pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 29/6/2008
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Francais
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   11716
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Strange that DaveS, my thoughts are that the transition from fossil cars to BEV’s will ramp up even more so, once COVID-19 starts to clear.

MG Motor UK has just donated 100 of the 164 mile range MG ZS EV cars to the NHS, to be fair the MG ZS EV is probably the best value BEV out there at the moment, and currently works at around £22k for the base model and £24k for top of the range model.

Message posted by 664DaveS via mobile 29/3/2020 at 7:16pm
Outfit:  Hyundai Santa Fe -Bailey Unicorn Cadiz     Location:  Shropshire
Joined: 24/7/2007
View 664DaveS's Profile View Profile   Reply to 664DaveS Reply   Quote 664DaveS Quote  
664DaveS
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3565

Site Reviews Total: 33
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 3  
Site Reviews 2018: 4  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 20
Site Nights 2018: 41

There will be less money to put in charge points.
Guarenteed that unemployment will probably rise as some companies will not survive.
BEVs are expensive, so sales will suffer.People will keep existing cars or go for cheaper alternative.
Also cutting govt subsidies on them would be a moneysaver.

-------------
DS-There's more to life than football!!!

Message posted by navver29/3/2020 at 8:54pm
Outfit:  Mondeo     Location:  West country
Joined: 23/8/2008
View navver's Profile View Profile   Reply to navver Reply   Quote navver Quote  
navver
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3945

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Local builder here asking planners to remove requirement for 15 charge points in visitors car parking area of a housing development. They are claiming it's an onerous requirement.

Advertisement


Message posted by bessie50030/3/2020 at 9:11am
Outfit:  Ford Kuga Coachman 560      Location:  Lancashire
Joined: 11/9/2006
View bessie500's Profile View Profile   Reply to bessie500 Reply   Quote bessie500 Quote  
bessie500
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1826

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

All new housebuilds with a garage have to have a car charging point, but then they can also be charged with a 3 pin socket as well

Bessie

Message posted by Francais30/3/2020 at 9:35pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 29/6/2008
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Francais
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   11716
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Yep three phase would be a better option for new builds as an option for BEV charging, but I guess 30amp capability is better than nothing, regular 13amp outlet is fine, but woefully slow for charging a BEV.

Message posted by navver31/3/2020 at 7:48pm
Outfit:  Mondeo     Location:  West country
Joined: 23/8/2008
View navver's Profile View Profile   Reply to navver Reply   Quote navver Quote  
navver
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3945

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Existing houses are 60Amp single phase. About 15kW. New houses are likely to have electric heat pumps for heating.

I'm not sure of the demand of a heat pump, I suspect 4 to 6 kW and water heating also required.

An electric shower is about 10kW now.

Also electric cooking.

So 30A for a charger, about 7kW is probably doable especially if the charge period can be controlled to dovetail with other use and external power availability.

Message posted by Francais31/3/2020 at 10:33pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 29/6/2008
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Francais
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   11716
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Yep Navver, although my house is a 1898 end terrace, the previous owner was an electrical engineer and a 30amp supply goes to the double garage, who new that might come in handy for charging a BEV, when we moved into the place back in 2013.

Message posted by Mike300302/4/2020 at 1:22pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 15/7/2013
View Mike3003's Profile View Profile   Reply to Mike3003 Reply   Quote Mike3003 Quote  
Mike3003
Avatar
Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   1435

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by navver on 29/3/2020
Local builder here asking planners to remove requirement for 15 charge points in visitors car parking area of a housing development. They are claiming it's an onerous requirement.



.........Especially when it has an adverse effect on their already huge profits.

-------------
Not ALL Newts get p**sed.

“Semper Fidelis”

Advertisement


Message posted by Francais05/4/2020 at 5:14pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 29/6/2008
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Francais
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   11716
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

For those interested Sandy Munro is doing a tear down of the Model Y multiple short videos on YouTube covering the step by step process.

So far the car is looking very good, with many improvements over the Model 3, in fact it is pretty much looking like Tesla have nailed it with the Model Y.

Message posted by Francais08/4/2020 at 11:50am
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 29/6/2008
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Francais
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   11716
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Well according to the TESMANIAN website there is evidence of a future software update for the Model Y to be equipped for towing.

None braked trailer capacity is 750kg which will be fine for most tent campers and tongue weight is a very respectable 145kg.

As for braked trailer towing the figure is 1,451kg which is pretty good for a BEV.

It look’s as though there will be third party kit available in the not to distant future, so not just a factory fit only option which is great news.

I think range reduction will be minimal when towing a small camping trailer, probably less than if you were using a roof box.

Towing a caravan will be a different story though, as the drag factor will be significant, even with a pop top caravan.

There is some details on electrics including stability control, but for regular towing electrics I have yet to find out how the wiring interfaces with the cars electrics from the tow socket.

Message posted by navver08/4/2020 at 8:35pm
Outfit:  Mondeo     Location:  West country
Joined: 23/8/2008
View navver's Profile View Profile   Reply to navver Reply   Quote navver Quote  
navver
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3945

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Aahh at last, no reason why I shouldn't buy one now.

Although, just thought don't they cost a fortune.

Alos, I believe the BEVs have the traction batteries plus a leisure battery for accessories such as lights etc.

The traction batteries are much more than 12 volts.

Message posted by Francais08/4/2020 at 9:00pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 29/6/2008
View Francais's Profile View Profile   Reply to Francais Reply   Quote Francais Quote  
Francais
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   11716
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 14
Site Nights 2018: 0

Well it just shows we’re we all are in the food chain navver, but the Tesla Model Y will sell in more numbers than they can produce, which will be around 25,000 units per month, so someone has got the money to splash around £50k on a car, but maybe not me and you navver.

My plan is to get one that has just come of a three year lease with around 60k miles on the clock, so maybe around £20k.

The battery should still be good for another 20 years, and only then will be at 90% capacity, the car itself is said to be good for a million miles, which will see me out.

BTW each battery cell is just 3.7v but the car has around 4,000 of them to give a 450v pack.

And yes a regular 12v Lead Acid battery keeps all the computers going etc, but is continually topped up from the main 450v battery pack.

Post last edited on 08/04/2020 21:05:29

Message posted by shaggy200009/4/2020 at 12:37pm
Outfit:  Explore 304     Location:  County Durham
Joined: 27/3/2012
View shaggy2000's Profile View Profile   Reply to shaggy2000 Reply   Quote shaggy2000 Quote  
shaggy2000
Avatar
Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   511
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

The one problem I have with electric cars (in their current format) is the charging times.

I realise you can use those fancy charging stations that charge in minutes, but as far as I know they are few and far between.

on a journey from the North East to Cornwall I fill the tank up twice, once in the North East, once about half way and that's it. EV's already have quite a short range, so even without a caravan on the back doing the same trip I would expect recharge probably three times, with a caravan on the back, four or maybe even five time?


Message posted by marg609/4/2020 at 1:57pm
Outfit:       Location:  
Joined: 11/8/2016
View marg6's Profile View Profile   Reply to marg6 Reply   Quote marg6 Quote  
marg6
Avatar
Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1965

Site Reviews Total: 3
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 3  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 15
Site Nights 2018: 0

Quote: Originally posted by shaggy2000 on 09/4/2020
The one problem I have with electric cars (in their current format) is the charging times.

I realise you can use those fancy charging stations that charge in minutes, but as far as I know they are few and far between.

on a journey from the North East to Cornwall I fill the tank up twice, once in the North East, once about half way and that's it. EV's already have quite a short range, so even without a caravan on the back doing the same trip I would expect recharge probably three times, with a caravan on the back, four or maybe even five time?





your first stop would be ferrybridge area and then approx. every 100 miles depending on the weather (which way the wind was blowing) I know a bloke who had a tesla and tried towing his van in Norfolk! flat! he was lucky to get 120 miles between stopping, so its going to be a long long trip to get to cornwall and back!



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

  Prev      Next

Jump To Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  18  19  20  21  22  23  24  25  26  27  28  29  30  31  32  33  34  35  36  37  38  39  40  41  42  43  44  45  46  47  48  49  50  51  52  53  54  55  56  57  58  59  60  61  62  63  64  65  66  67  68  69  70  71  72  73  74  75  76  77  78  79  80  81  82  83  84  85

Quick Links - All Forums - Caravan Towcars and Towing Advice - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Tweet This!  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...





2752 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews

Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2020


Advertisement


Advertisement