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Message posted by ST1100 via mobile 11/4/2020 at 4:29am
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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 10/4/2020
All depends on the regen setting ST1100, some Teslaís have done over 250,000 miles on the original set of pads.

Hybridís are for the birds, and is one of the reasons why they will be cleared of the roads along with all the fossil cars.

Arenít Lexus just a re-branded Datsun,



Nissan's luxury cars are the Infinity.

Lexus are the luxury cars owned by Toyota.

They have been making hybrids since 2005 and the full range of models are all hybrids only apart from the top sports model LC which are hybrids or 5.0l petrol.

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Well Bessie I was just asking the question about Lexus, I am no Jeremy Clarkson, but I will add that to my knowledge base.

Sorry ST1100, but I take a very dim view of Hybrids, they are only in production as a tax dodge for company car drivers and I am glad the government intends to clear them of the roads at the same time as fossil cars.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 11/4/2020
Well Bessie I was just asking the question about Lexus, I am no Jeremy Clarkson, but I will add that to my knowledge base.

Sorry ST1100, but I take a very dim view of Hybrids, they are only in production as a tax dodge for company car drivers and I am glad the government intends to clear them of the roads at the same time as fossil cars.



For people like myself self charging hybrids are the only solution that works in practical use until they find a sensible way to be able to charge them quickly and safely and with the range to travel the length of the country with a 20 mins stop every 3 hours.

I live in Terrace house, no fixed parking.

Also at a price that is affordable and a size of my Lexus or bigger.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 10/4/2020
Well 664DaveS, the government found the money to send an armada to the Falklands and fight a sustained battle, I recon the cost of this pandemic will be a fraction of what that event cost, and I donít recall any increase in taxís following that episode.

What is happening now is just a once in a hundred year blip, we will get over it and move on.

As for lost revenue from the sale of fossil fuels for cars, that will be easily addressed with a embedded black box in your car, with a pence per mile charge, I would say 10p per mile would do it, that would soon get the remaining fossil cars of the road.

As for those of you that tow caravans, you have my deepest sympathy, the future for those folk does indeed look bleak, along with those that own motor homes etc.



I think you will find the Falklands war did not cost that much,compared to the current situation. First it did not last long, people were not sent home from work and business carried on as usual.No lockdown.
Same with the Gulf Wars.Some businesses prospered from these actions.

I agree with you in that some form or road pricing will be needed to make up for lost revenues. Oil will still be needed for aircraft and shipping for a long time.

I expect future electric vehicles wether battery or fuel cell powered will have the ability to tow things.

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I would have thought that the Tesla Model Y was in around the same price bracket as the Lexus RX450H, and at first glance it looks similar on size.

I donít get this not being able to charge at home, itís a bit like saying I donít have a Petrol pump at home to fill my fossil car.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 11/4/2020
I would have thought that the Tesla Model Y was in around the same price bracket as the Lexus RX450H, and at first glance it looks similar on size.

I donÔŅĹt get this not being able to charge at home, itÔŅĹs a bit like saying I donÔŅĹt have a Petrol pump at home to fill my fossil car.



It simple enough, there are a total of 2 charge points for Tesla in the North East .. one about 18 mile away the other 30 mile away.

For the Lexus I have 3 petrol stations within 2 mile distance.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 11/4/2020
Well Bessie I was just asking the question about Lexus, I am no Jeremy Clarkson, but I will add that to my knowledge base.

Sorry ST1100, but I take a very dim view of Hybrids, they are only in production as a tax dodge for company car drivers and I am glad the government intends to clear them of the roads at the same time as fossil cars.



As long as they donít tax it in the next 4 years that will do, after that I think if I still have a job their will be a full electric car that will tow my van or I might have to downsize my vans weight from 1560 kgs

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ST1100, thatís probably the case for Model X and Model S that both have a Tesla Type 2 charge port, but both the (European) U.K. Model 3 and Model Y use a different charge port on the car, that being CCS, so the M3 and MY can fast charge at many other places than just a Tesla SuperCharger in fact you may have noticed that Tesla Superchargers many of which now have the two types of connector both Type 2 and CCS, and I also believe that you can now get a CCS to CHAdeMO adaptor for all Teslaís, so that will give more fast charging opportunities in your area
at a glance I recon around at least 20 fast charge locations in the North East.

I would imagine that the (European) U.K. Model X and Model S will also move from a Type 2, to a CCS charge port when those models get a refresh.
Of course the Model Y will not be available in Europe until 2022, maybe before, but well worth the wait and by then there should also be a tow hitch option available as well, just as with the current (European) U.K. Model 3.

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You don't need a petrol station at home because you can fill up in about 3 minutes on your way home or on your way out. There is no comparison. I haven't heard of any fast charger that can fully charge an EV's battery in 3 minutes and I doubt there ever will be one. Those who don't have overnight charging facilities at home will be at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to BEVs.

On the other hand, I have the ability to easily charge one at home, but I will never be able to own one, unless you count a mobility scooter.


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with model y prices starting at £31,000 to £41000 its well out of the price range of most normal drivers price bracket and the only points to charge it away from home would be at other peoples houses according to their map, there is little to no chance we as a family would ever buy one, god can you imagine your going on your holidays with your caravan on the back and have to pull up in the middle of some housing estate outside someones house to recharge the thing up! total nightmare with a caravan on the back

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Colin you say that but most people would only need to charge a car once a week, ghis could be done whilst shopping or going for something to eat or drink.

The guys I work with religiously plug their cars in when they get to work.

Itís all about changing habits just like we are being forced to now

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Donít worry Colin, there is always the Renault Twizy, and next year we will see the Seat Minimo on the roads, both under £10k on the road from new.

As for charging, whatís the rush 45 mins or so soon goes by, gives you time to get some shopping done or grab a coffee etc, I agree being able to charge at home is an advantage but not a necessity.     

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 11/4/2020


I donít get this not being able to charge at home, itís a bit like saying I donít have a Petrol pump at home to fill my fossil car.



Good heaven! Honestly, what planet do you live on for goodness sake.

What a ridiculously stupid statement to make, get a grip.

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Well Mike3003, plenty of folk have bought BEVís that donít have the ability to charge at home and you donít here them complaining.

As Darwin once said, ďit is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to changeĒ.

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I rest my case.

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I think I have a completely different image of the future of motoring to most people. Bessie was halfway there with "Itís all about changing habits just like we are being forced to now".

I think a lot more than just habits are going to have to change. One of the things that is changing now, because it has to, is working from home. I think for a lot of people that is going to have to become the new normal.

I am also inclined to think that the future of the BEV is not going to be to simply replace the fossil fuel car. If you think about it, especially here in Britain we are obsessed by the thought of owning things, and the car fits into that. Most privately owned cars spend 95% of their lives parked somewhere, either at peoples' homes, at their place of work, or in a car park somewhere. That is very inefficient, and clutters up the roads. I believe the real future of the BEV lies with "club cars". Cars that are rented by the hour, as is becoming common practice in some cities already. I know a lot of people won't accept what I am saying, and I know it won't suit some people, but I do believe that is the future. I accept I may be wrong, but only time will tell. A lot is going to change drastically, it's not going to be just a straight swap, of that I am certain. Just like things are changing now due to our present circumstances.




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