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Message posted by Francais08/7/2020 at 6:37pm
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Yep, well all Tesla’s are OK for towing especially the Model X, the only one that is not, is the original Roadstar, although that was a very limited production run, back at the start.

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Most electric cars have a fairly low limit around 750kg.
You won't get on most charge points with a trailer as they are not long enough!
I did see a Tesla in Chester with a towbar.

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Yep 664DaveS, as most Tesla’s are fine for towing they are putting in trailer friendly charging stalls, check out Bjorn Nyland latest youtube video featuring a recently opened service station in Norway.

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It is quite likely I have seen more but not noticed but I've only really noticed just a few. I do tend to look at cars though and try to identify them, especially when I am walking around or in car parks.

In theory an electric car should be good for towing as an electric motor produces maximum torque at virtually any revs. Even from zero. But it's more about what is officially rated to tow, and how much it would reduce the range. Towing a caravan is like dragging a big sail behind you, the wind drag is quite significant, it isn't simply about the weight. The faster you go, the more significant that wind drag is.

Aluminium bodies are far from new though. I remember the Rover 2000 back in the 1960s had quite a few aluminium panels, and my very first vehicle, a 1954 Reliant Regal, had a body built entirely from aluminium. I'm sure there were many others too.



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Yep Colin, I am not sure what type of aluminium Tesla are using for the body panels, but the aluminium alloy that is being used for the sub chassis is quite special, in fact Sandy Munro could not determine the composition of the alloy, so that is in the lab and they are trying to work out what it actually is, the likes of which have never been seen before.

Well worth a watch is the Sandy Munro teardown of the a Tesla Model Y, a fair number of episodes, but it really gives you an insight into the auto industry and how Tesla almost singlehandedly are disrupting it.

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One of the Jaguar XJ range had an aluminium body.
Landie Series models and Defender bodywork had a lot of aluminium alloy called Birmabright. Chassis and bulkhead steel.
Current Range Rover Sport and full size went to Aluminium saving around half a tonne. I am not sure if the Discovery 5 is the same, maybe new Defender too.

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Tesla “Battery investment day” is now scheduled for 15th Sept, apart from the million mile battery to be announced, it is rumoured a 205kwh hour battery will be unveiled so 600+ mile range, and also a sub $25,000 Tesla compact car to take on the VW iD3 Golf size market.

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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 09/7/2020
Yep 664DaveS, as most Tesla’s are fine for towing they are putting in trailer friendly charging stalls, check out Bjorn Nyland latest youtube video featuring a recently opened service station in Norway.





Bit of a drive that.

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I have been looking at some car tests online as I get some freebies. Volvo have brought out a BEV under the Polestar brand.
The testers say its a very good alternative to the Tesla. Not cheap but its a premium car. Looks very nice.
Also looked at the electric Mini, it costs about the same as the Cooper S with similar performance!
More than the basic petrol Cooper of course.
Range about 190 miles but they market it more as a town car.
Might change my Cooper convertible for one when pcp is up.

Aparantly a british company is looking to build a Gigafactory for batteries, one of preferred sites is former RAF base at St Athan, where Aston Martin have a plant.
Been to the base a few times in my RAF time. It used to be major sevicing unit for a variety of aircraft from Harrier to VC 10.



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664DaveS, check out the new Nissan Ariya 63 and 87kWH battery so good for up to 310 miles range.

It’s a decent sized SUV, and comes in either 2WD or 4WD.

And yes it can tow, upto 1,500kg so those with caravans will be pleased.

No prices yet, but is bound to be a little less expensive than the Tesla Model Y.

The Ariya should be on U.K. roads early next year.

I would say the Nissan will be the better buy of the two, unless you need all that a Tesla tech.

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Weight might be an issue but an option for caravan manufacturers could be to look at the caravan having its own its own battery pack & drive system. A decent solar set-up could help top it up during storage.    

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Quote: Originally posted by takisawa on 29/7/2020
Weight might be an issue but an option for caravan manufacturers could be to look at the caravan having its own its own battery pack & drive system. A decent solar set-up could help top it up during storage.    





What you mean like this.

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A Tesla 3 passed me on Ironbridge bypass today, they certainly shift! I wasn't hanging about in Mini Cooper. Electric motors give really good Torque.

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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 29/7/2020
A Tesla 3 passed me on Ironbridge bypass today, they certainly shift! I wasn't hanging about in Mini Cooper. Electric motors give really good Torque.



Electric motors do have fantastic torque, and they are not so revs dependent either. Hence no need for gears.


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There is a guy on a Facebook caravan forum that is using a Tesla model X to tow a large Swift twin axle caravan weighing in at 1850kg and he gets 150 miles on one charge towing the van.
That should answer the question can and electric car tow a caravan

And for those that will point out the cost the price of a Tesla model X, is actually cheaper than a decent spec new range Rover or a similar price to a high spec discovery, a car which is often seen on a caravan site

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Yep Bessie, that’s what caught my eye with both the Tesla Model Y and the new Nissan Ariya, bothhave decent tow capabilities and range.

It will be interesting to see the pricing for the Nissan, as it’s bound to be less than the Tesla MY which is a £50k or will be when it becomes available in Europe next year.


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