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Message posted by tdrees via mobile 12/1/2022 at 11:05pm
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Quote: Originally posted by boff on 12/1/2022
People really get hung up on charging times 99% time it doesn’t matter. Our car is currently charging ip up at 25miles per hour so it will be charged by the time I get up. 20 secs to plug in and 20 seconds to unplug.
Totally agree, Boff. It took me maybe 20s to plug mine in today, and 20s to unplug it this morning. That was after it had saved me 5 mins of scraping ice by pre-heating it’s self before I went out to it.
I do get that while towing, being able to charge is important, and yes it’s nice for it to be fast. But unlike petrol, I don’t have to stand outside the car holding the nozzle. I plug it in, walk away and spend the 20 to 30 mins using the loo, drinking a coffee or looking at them view.
For me, I don’t choose to tow with an EV because the EV is more convenient for towing. It’s not (and I have another PHEV I could more easily tow with). It’s that the simplicity of using the EV for everything else, while away or at home, so totally out weighs the inconvenience of the few times a year so have to charge while towing. The EV experience is just better…
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Message posted by martin73413/1/2022 at 12:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by boff on 12/1/2022
People really get hung up on charging times 99% time it doesn’t matter. Our car is currently charging ip up at 25miles per hour so it will be charged by the time I get up. 20 secs to plug in and 20 seconds to unplug.
Charging times do matter massively though. If I am driving 200-300 miles to a remote work site, something I do quite frequently, then charging time and range is very important. I work all over the UK frequently having to drive in excess of 200 miles in a day, often towing something, as well as having to work when I get to the site. Most of my work sites are nowhere near any sort of possible charging point. If I have to add 1-2 hours to each journey to recharge my EV, that is going to be a complete PITA. EV's are fine for short trips or for leisure or social use but pretty much useless for serious long-distance work travel. One example is the 2 day trip I do to North Yorkshire a couple of times a month. That is 320 miles and takes slightly less than 6 hours with a 15 minute stop. This is a manageable drive considering the 7-8 hours I then spend working on site the same day and the same drive back the evening of the following day. As my only power supply on the site is a couple of 5.2KW diesel generators that have to power pretty much everything on site, charging my vehicle on-site is not an option, this means I would have to spend 2 hours charging en route. This turns a long 6 hour drive into an 8 hour drive. This might be acceptable for a couple of weeks in the middle of summer, but for the rest of the time there simply isn't enough daylight hours for this to work.
I know that this does not matter to most people here, as most of you only use your cars for short commutes, and social and leisure trips. But for a very large number of people like myself, our vehicles are an essential work tool. Anything that reduces their practicality can make them useless. For many people, charging times and range are critical and not just for those people who use their vehicle for work, but for many people who don't hve the option of charging at home. For me, right now, a BEV is about as useless as it gets.
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