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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 12/11/2021
My concern is that there will probably be people out there who have heard about the date of the 15th and towing because they think they are now legal, when in fact they are not. Will the police be out there in force booking them?

Many years ago roadside spot checks used to be a regular thing, but I would imagine that ANPR made them redundant. I can remember being stopped many times back in the 1960s and 1970s, but not since.



With all due respect Colin, why is that “a concern” that they may not be booked?… this is all the governments fault, it should have been passed by Monday but now won’t be. It is not the fault of the working man behind the wheel, so why would you be so concerned about people being prosecuted for it?

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The concern is that if they are involved in an accident their ins will be invalid and won't cover the third party.
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Well it will cover the third party, via the government insurance scheme. Next?….

Message posted by Colin2112/11/2021 at 9:17pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Triaxle on 12/11/2021
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 12/11/2021
My concern is that there will probably be people out there who have heard about the date of the 15th and towing because they think they are now legal, when in fact they are not. Will the police be out there in force booking them?

Many years ago roadside spot checks used to be a regular thing, but I would imagine that ANPR made them redundant. I can remember being stopped many times back in the 1960s and 1970s, but not since.



With all due respect Colin, why is that “a concern” that they may not be booked?… this is all the governments fault, it should have been passed by Monday but now won’t be. It is not the fault of the working man behind the wheel, so why would you be so concerned about people being prosecuted for it?



More a concern that they WILL be booked Triaxle. I quite agree, it's all down to the government's incompetence. People could be acting in all innocence and the police could be lying in wait for them.


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I just find it weird that today if you are pulled towing without b+e you are a criminal; in a couple of weeks time you will be a law abiding citizen….

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Message posted by Colin2112/11/2021 at 9:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Triaxle on 12/11/2021
I just find it weird that today if you are pulled towing without b+e you are a criminal; in a couple of weeks time you will be a law abiding citizen….



Crazy isn't it!


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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 12/11/2021
The concern is that if they are involved in an accident their ins will be invalid and won't cover the third party.
Saxo1



Does this mean that your insurance is invalid if caught speeding or committing some other sort of traffic offence? Anyway you will still have third party cover however the insurance company may then claim any costs from the driver.

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insurers require the insured to be legally licenced to drive the insured vehicle,
If you drive a vehicle that you don't have the correct licence to drive you are driving otherwise than in accordance with your licence and the insurers will invalidate your policy, totally different to other traffic offences.
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Message posted by saxo113/11/2021 at 10:33am
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If the insurance co decided to invalidate your policy for driving otherwise than in accordance with your licence, they might not if they considered it to be a genuine mistake, then your policy would be considered void, that is never existed, a third party would not be covered as effectively the policy never existed.
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Message posted by martin73413/11/2021 at 11:49am
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 13/11/2021
If the insurance co decided to invalidate your policy for driving otherwise than in accordance with your licence, they might not if they considered it to be a genuine mistake, then your policy would be considered void, that is never existed, a third party would not be covered as effectively the policy never existed.
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All motor insurance premiums include a contribution to the MIB. If you are involved in an accident with an uninsured driver and you are not at fault, the MIB will cover your costs and then seek to recover their expenses from the uninsured driver.


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If you are deemed to be at fault the MIB won't cover your loss you have to claim off your insurance.
It can be difficult to prove blame in a lot of accidents and the onus is on you or you insurer to prove it,that is why some insurers have uninsured driver cover in the policy.
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Well looks like the change happened today. Just got notification

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-f........


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Emailed my mp for an update on this last night… my god she works fast 😂😂


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