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Message posted by dk16806/6/2022 at 6:03pm
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Just a general comment, in that induction hobs are great, and if I were to replace my hob at home, it will be an induction hob with as many burners as possible.

Had the Vango dual induction hob been available when I was having my PVC kitted out, I would probably have it as a mobile unit instead of forking out X times more on the built-in Thetford hob that I have now.

I have 2 induction hobs for pop up kitchen events, a single and a double, and they are great; however, not good for the van as they are too powerful.

I was able to justify a set of Tefal Ingenio cookware that I had lusted after for years for use with my induction hobs, and am very happy with them. The smaller pieces kept in the van.

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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 05/6/2022
You may well kick yourself for giving away the gas fridge! Electric coolboxes are no substitute for a fridge! The Peltier/Thermoelectric types generally only cool to 16C below ambient at best, and the ambient inside a tent can easily be 30 odd degrees or more on a warmish/sunnyish day, your perishables risk perishing, your butter/marge can easily melt on a long warm day!

Perishable foods should be stored at 0-4C for safety, which proper fridges can achieve up to around 35C ambient, electric coolboxes don't do so well. The other annoying thing is those with fans (which is most!) run constantly, and the fan noise can be an irritation when you are trying to sleep only a few feet away.



Other than dedicated ones meant for install (Webasto/Waeco), the mains powered cool boxes usually rate themselves at 20c below ambient so at 25 degrees C its running flat out to managed 5 degrees. Not really a fridge then.

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Quote: Originally posted by SoggySteve on 21/6/2022
Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 05/6/2022
You may well kick yourself for giving away the gas fridge! Electric coolboxes are no substitute for a fridge! The Peltier/Thermoelectric types generally only cool to 16C below ambient at best, and the ambient inside a tent can easily be 30 odd degrees or more on a warmish/sunnyish day, your perishables risk perishing, your butter/marge can easily melt on a long warm day!

Perishable foods should be stored at 0-4C for safety, which proper fridges can achieve up to around 35C ambient, electric coolboxes don't do so well. The other annoying thing is those with fans (which is most!) run constantly, and the fan noise can be an irritation when you are trying to sleep only a few feet away.



Other than dedicated ones meant for install (Webasto/Waeco), the mains powered cool boxes usually rate themselves at 20c below ambient so at 25 degrees C its running flat out to managed 5 degrees. Not really a fridge then.




Sorry Soggy, but with the exception of the first listed Outwell, what are these?

https://www.jacksonsleisure.com/caravan/camping/cool/box/freezer/

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Message posted by SoggySteve via mobile 23/6/2022 at 2:10pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Ernie DB on 22/6/2022
Quote: Originally posted by SoggySteve on 21/6/2022




Sorry Soggy, but with the exception of the first listed Outwell, what are these?

https://www.jacksonsleisure.com/caravan/camping/cool/box/freezer/



If you can see the average usage current requirements for any of the fridges you�ve listed then do list them here as I can see that in any of the specs without trawling through copy and pasting the models themselves (though I�m doing soo on my phone right now). Maybe just list their best case scenarios?

I�ve been camping a very long time now and pretty much everyone that comes to a site with a tent and cool box hasn�t spent �600 on a Webasto fridge. Most of them buy a cool box from somewhere like Gooutdoors or similar and pretty much all of the ones I�ve crossed paths with are 20c below ambient or there abouts.

Maybe rather than sniping people on the forum actually answer some of the OP�s instead. If you want to offer a �600 fridge as their best option then go for it but most people won�t be spending that amount of money so my quote of 20 below ambient is something I would consider helpful for most people. Even if they find something more expensive it�s not something I�ve found that people are aware of as they�re too busy picking the right size based on price.

Ironically, I mentioned fridges for install and mentioned two brands which are usually more expensive and more often than not are used for installation. The kind of ones you’ve listed to continue your argument with me

Also, have a chip at Monty while you’re at it, who’s post I totally agree with and basically I was supporting from my own experiences

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Post last edited on 23/06/2022 14:24:47

Message posted by dk16823/6/2022 at 3:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Ernie DB on 22/6/2022

Sorry Soggy, but with the exception of the first listed Outwell, what are these?

https://www.jacksonsleisure.com/caravan/camping/cool/box/freezer/



Just looking at the prices alone, I am almost certain they are fully electric compressor fridge freezers, very good at maintaining low temperatures independently of ambient temperature.

Check out the weight of these when empty - that put me off as I would struggle to lift one up into my can when it is empty, let alone when it is loaded loaded!

Does that answer your question?

DK

Edited to say I sensed that some posts had been deleted.

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Lots of sites will not allow generators because if the noise and fumes.

Especially quieter sites that dont offer EHU and have a back to nature vibe.

Message posted by hartfordxxl10018/7/2022 at 7:17pm
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Quote: Originally posted by WeeAlD on 04/6/2022
Make sure that you are protected from electric hazards by getting a proper RCD equipped unit. I saw lots of examples over the past 2 years where it was an outdoor type plug, cable and a domestic twin socket which you would use indoors screwed the wall.
Accident waiting to happen.



I actually saw this on a you tube video, and it was about what to use when camping, makes me shudder.

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